atsch Why do you guys come on a board an argue about topics you apparently know absolutly nothing about ?:think ALI held and ran my friend his whole carreer ! Somehow it makes him great in the eyes of the ******s here but if the same tactics are used by another fighter it somehow draws critisism ! Unbeleiveable ******ation !:yep
i don't think it's really about the clinching. it's just typical of sam peter fans to make excuses for his flaws, blame everyone else but peter every time he looks bad, and try to blow-up his pathetic achievements into huge victories. The bottom line on sam peter huggers [like box03 (after reading all her posts i'm beginning to think she's his wife) and swedeone] is this: -they will never get over his fight with wlad or acknowledge the reality of what happened. typical sam peter hugger logic: the ref. was incompetent because he allowed klitschko to clinch (which is legal last time i checked), but it was okay for peter to rabbit punch and punch on the break in that fight (which is illegal last time i checked), peter's fan club is so deluded they are actually trying to blame the rabbit punches on klitschko, wtf? -sam peter is not the big punching ko artist his fans claim him to be. he has one ko in his last 5 fights, his ko rate is 76% and declining, and his signature knockout was against a semi-retired b-class cruiserweight. these same people hate on klitschko (probably because he exposed fatboy) who has won 4 of his last 5 fights by ko against consensus top 10 competition (with the exception of austin), has a ko percentage of 85% and keeps getting better in a word sam peter fans are delusional, end of story
Improved Peter = the judges are bought as well as the ref. This improved Peter beats Wlad outside of Germany if he doesn't get knocked out first.
:good Very good analysis, El B. As I've posted before, I was fairly high on Peter's potential until his 2 fights with fading lard ass JT. :tired The Peter nuthuggers make Toney out to be this great HW contender to excuse their heros performance - one a close decision. Wow, ahh look at how JT rolls with those punches, see how JT lays on the ropes and counter punches... what else can he do, at that weight for his height and age? Actually move for most of 12 rounds? Then they put down the best opponent Sam ever fought :nut Hysterical "analysis" by the Peter sleepwalkers.
Man... I can't wait to see the excuses fly after Peter actually chin checks Wlad and puts him face down on the canvas. The fraud chin Wlad is WILL be exposed soon. (Provided of course that he actually fights something resembling a decent HW anytime soon, which is certainly NO guarantee). :yep :hi:
So you are saying Wlad has not dominated. ****.....Just look at his last 5. Peter, Byrd, Brock, Austin, and Brewster? What fights are u watching?
They are watching imaginary fights in their own little worlds. Tyson was a superb fighter in the late 80s, but he faught more than his share of bums. As did Ali. Wlad stops 4 top ranked contenders - brutally avenging :!: one of his losses - and UD's the next HW "savior" and the haters say what has he done? :nut While conveniently ignoring what Peter has actually done :-(
Which gives you a bigger woody, Pavliks KO of JT or imagining Peter KOing Wlad? Since you constantly state as fact that Wlad has a weak chin, how can an established fact be exposed? :nut You must have skipped the Logic 101 lectures or even English 101 Don't worry you're in the majority here. More of your "logic"... so Wlad fights and comfortably beats his last 5 opponents - all legit ranked HWs, and one of them your hero - but he has not faught a decent HW? To say you're inconsistent or biased is an under statement atsch
Like others pointed out an argument can be made that Peter didnt improve (much) but Toney declined which seems to be more likely since professional athletes usually dont improve drastically within a few month.
you know the good thing about all these ridiculous posts you have been making is that once your boyfriend is beaten decisively (again) you'll disappear like all the other douches that were at one time in love with talentless hype jobs (can you say pantera2000?)
Im whos wife, it doesnt matter at least my favorite fighter is not a *** like yours. Watch the fight again, Wlad put his head down to try to avoid Peters punches, he put himself in that postion and he payed for it. All you Wlad fans think everythings a conspiracy, Brewster poisoned Wlad the first time, Peter hit Wlad with illegal punches thats why he fell. Just admit your Wlad "the ***" lost fair and square to Brewster because he gassed out it happend to Foreman against Ali, it happends sometimes. Sam Peters Punches were fair and if they werent the ref would of warned him and not counted the knockdowns, its that simple.