Andre Ward should be out of the super six!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Laudrup, Dec 4, 2009.


  1. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But the runner-up was close - it's all the "Danny Green hit RJJ in the back of his head, while he was running away and therefore he should be DQ'ed" threads :D
     
  2. kirk

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    For the record, i dont think he is, but i still think it shouldnt just be swept under the rug if hes using this DR. it should be questioned and he should be questioned, imo. Doesnt mean i think hes using them. And i hope hes not.
     
  3. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, they didn't?? Some boxing fans just can't accept reality. :patsch
     
  4. c-man

    c-man New Member Full Member

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    reckon Green could get down from cruiserweight??
     
  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I agree.
     
  6. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Innocent until proven guilty" and "proof it" are not permissible when your talking about a guy Conte who specialises in undetectable performance enhancing drugs. If you associate your self with this guy then you are guilty. Conte has a reputation so why even take the risk.
     
  7. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well cheat or no cheat - one thing is for sure. Ward made a very very very bad move choosing that doctor. He'll now have this shadow hanging over him for next long period - and rightfully so.

    He has to stop that cooperation rather today, than tomorrow!
     
  8. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But atleast if he is cheating, then he has a good reason for knowing him, as he is one of the best in the world in terms of "wonder vitamins".
     
  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its not proven until we know what was in the dirty **** test, there hasnt even been a rumor of anything being unusal with Wards **** tests. These clowns are wanting him kicked out simply because they feel deep down that he will win the whole thing, and of course those are European fans that came into the start of this thinking that it was a three man race and the American fighters were only window dressing. so once that was upset they fall to making unfounded and retarted claims.

    Conte is amoung the very best in his field, and the fact that he did some shade stuff in the past doesnt mean that everything that he has done is shady. Not to mention that many of his products are still available over the counter. I see nothing wrong with these guys using his products, with him being outed it simply means that those that choose to use his stuff should have it checked up before they use it. And anyone using his products cant use the "I didnt know" excuse should something happen.

    However this situation has nothing to do with Ward being dirty and everything to do with Ward whipping Kesslers ass:good
     
  10. rccwilliams

    rccwilliams Sippin' on some sizzurp Full Member

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    From what i understand, he's not even using any supplements, just a breathing machine that stimulates red blood cell production(made by Conte). So the steroid accusations need to end. As if they were anything more than the last desperate attempt to excuse Kessler's beat down at the hands of Ward anyways.

    Blown out of proportion? Just maybe.:conf
     
  11. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is one of the most mis-guided thoughts when it came to what Conte did. The stuff that Conte did did show up in tests, they just didnt know what it was. The stuff that they called "The CLEAR" merely deluted the simple, and made the substance had to figure out. But now that they KNOW what it is then it can be found right off. Now Im not one to think that Conte and his team could do it again.
     
  12. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well I'm with anti-doping expert Tygart on this one...

    Tygart said. "I believe everyone deserves to be rehabilitated, but I question why any elite-level athlete would think anyone like this would have a secret recipe that can work so well. For the life of me, I can't imagine why anyone would associate with someone like this who's made so many mistakes in the past."

    Fact is that what Conte does - the legal part - many others can do too. So there is no reason to choose to work with Conte unless you want "special" vitamins... only other reason is stupidity!
     
  13. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "Conte said he's provided his nutritional supplements to Ward and other athletes, including heavyweight boxer Eddie Chambers, who will fight Wladimir Klitschko for a world title in March."

    Sadly it looks a lot like the "old" cyclist setup - A IHT-mashine plus EPO or a drug to the same effect. If drug-tests show a high number of red-blodshells then you simply explain it with the IHT-mashine. Not a prove, but sadly another indication, that there is a fire to the smoke :(
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Anyone who works with Conte deserves criticism. That said I don't see Ward as a cheater. Of course, I said the same of Shane, so you never really know.