Pacman had the judges bought off for him

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  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl Getting the better of the exchange?
     
  2. smokey

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    The top scoring criteria is supposed to be clean, effecting punching with the other criteria weighting the choice. If one guy is outlanding the other with effective punches, which doesn't mean you have to hurt them just be effective, then it really doesn't matter who has better defense or ring generalship or anything... honestly if they DO have better defense and ring generalship, the other guy won't be winning on effective punching in most cases.

    I didn't watch this fight. I wasn't going to buy a PPV for a fight that I didn't give Barrera a chance of winning, and I'm at work, which blocks video streams. From what I saw with Doghouse's round by round, they said that most of the rounds were competative, but Pac edged them out on what seems to be simply being able to outwork Barrera. I don't have an opinion myself, since I didn't see it.

    I will say that I'm suprised Barrera was even competative through the fight, and it sounds like he was. I thought Pac had gotten better since their first fight, and Marco had only gotten older. I'll look forward to watching the re-air of this.
     
  3. PJD3

    PJD3 Member Full Member

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    maywether does.
    presscock will be the frist to explain how the greatest dominates its.:good
     
  4. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    Yes and he is, after all, the epitome of true and consistent statements.

    Point, set, match for ludwig.

    I apologize for ever arguing your point.
     
  5. loui_ludwig

    loui_ludwig Member Full Member

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    No need to apologized. Remember Steward is a boxing expert. While us, were fans that sometimes that our views are being affected by being biased or looking at a situation our own way without looking at the details.
     
  6. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    Freddie Roach, who may or may not be a boxing expert, said the fight was close between rounds.

    Also, Steward said that Barrera should not have announced before the fight that this was the last fight because it could affect the judges' attitudes towards him since he's leaving the sport. Perhaps a Freudian slip on his part and a reflection on the commentators' attitudes towards MAB.
     
  7. loui_ludwig

    loui_ludwig Member Full Member

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    Some rounds were closed, but remember that Pac has never had a win by decision in the US. That is why Roach probably said the fight was close, he was worried that Pac might not get the decision, even though he won most of the rounds. As far as MAB announcing his retirement, i though that the judges will favor him for that reason, giving him a good farewell.

    The most i can give MAB was 4 rounds. The associated press had Pac winning 116-111, that's 8 rounds to 4. Pac won the fight fair and square.
     
  8. ravtrav

    ravtrav Active Member Full Member

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    I thought 115-112 was crazy

    I had it 10-2 The Destroyer
     
  9. errsta

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    116-111 is a fair score. I don't claim that Marco won the fight, I just feel the margins were ridiculous. That is a statement on the judges, not Manny - who I feel did what he had to do to win the fight.
     
  10. loui_ludwig

    loui_ludwig Member Full Member

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    In case your interested, ESPN's Dan Rafael score was 117-110 for Pac.

    I agree with you. A lot of fans were disappointed that Pac did not KO MAB. Pac should be given credit for the way he fougth MAB. Pac might not have the skills of MAB, EM, or JMM, but tonight, Pac did some good boxing for a one dimensional fighter.
     
  11. JoeR

    JoeR New Member Full Member

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    you guys are crazy, it wasnt even close. I had Barrera winning 2 rounds, but I can live with someone giving Barrera 4 rounds. Anything closer than that is insane.