Yep, but ok only amateur, so no ive never done 12,.... but anyways i think preferring 15 over 12 rounds is a perfectly valid opinion, not barbaric bloodlust. I care about fighters safety and realize they are the most important facets of the sport just as much as you do; In fact thats the main reason im one of the very few who advocates Multiple divisions and the current plethora of aphabet belts........because its far better for the fighters, who are the ones getting punched, not us fans, and therefore they have far greater titles and payday opportunities. But i digress. We all care about fighters safety, but a non fan would be perfectly within their rights to claim that if we care so much for their safety we should cease being hypocrites and campaign for it to be banned outright......its all a matter of degrees. To them were all barbaric and morally decadent for following the sport at all, so its a morally relative issue to debate anyway. Some think 12, Some like me prefer 15, but theres no moral high ground you can take here that stands up to any sort of scrutiny. I went off one earlier simply because i resent the suggestion that I, and others, dont consider the fighters welfare as being paramount, as far as money goes and even more so his health and safety.
Blame Duk Koo Kim. That ***** couldn't even take a simple ass beating. I blame this 12 round **** on his dumb ass.
At many of the local events I've watched the shorter fights are far more entertaining. The fighters know that it is only 4 or 6 rounds and they really don't have to hold back at all. With the longer fights, the fighters generally don't go all out or have to take rounds off because they are fatigued. We all wish that the some fight would continue because they are great. Most fights don't go that way. 99 percent of fights don't go that way. Both Williams and Martinez where gases in the 12th. We may well have gotten a KO if the fight went another 3 rounds, but I don't think that those rounds would have been all that great.
I dont hear anyone here calling for it to be made safer (ie; less than 12 rds)but you've just stated you'd like to see it made more dangerous by going up to 15rds !!!!! You seem to see these fighters as having no more worth than entertaining you! and show total disregard for their safety,, You are obviously a brain dead cretin with no morals :deal
No, i dont halfwit, read my last post, if you have the intellect, which is doubtful. Fighters safety is compromised by Weight making and dehydration more than anything, there were not more ring fatalities and injuries when fights were 15 rounds. The stats back that up. But fighters safety should be discussed more closely on another thread devoted to it.Strictly speaking this one isnt. Anyway, Who the hell do you think youre name calling you cheeky little *******? I may be many things on here, but you sure as hell arent qualified to judge the intelligence or morals of one of your fellow village idiots, let alone mine. You want to trade insults? Bring it on Tosser.
Qualified! what a ****,, I suppose 13,000+ posts of complete and utter dog**** makes you some kind of boxing professor? So answer me this simple question, do you think 15rds of boxing is more or less dangerous than 12rds ? Also where are you getting these stats on fatalities from what source and what exactly do they prove??? Have you got stats on the amount of brain damage sustained by fighters being more or less in 15 rd fights??? Dickhead
:thinkDo me a favour, tell me who said this or feels this way please? Seeing as some posters on this thread act like you deserve the Nobel Peace prize for stating the bleeding obvious(fighters fight, we just watch, their welfare is important)....could you tell me who wants 50 rounds and near death experiences please? Or maybe start a poll asking that very question?:? Many thanks:good
Nothing to do with post count, I just refuse to be insulted or judged by a sanctimonious ***** who's hijacked a simple 15 rounds vs 12 rounds thread to appear like a modern day St Francis of Assisi. I dont think either is safer. Boxing is dangerous anyway.Less so nowadays but thats because of stringent medical measures being introduced, not the dropping of 3 rounds. Look up the stats yourself, im not spoon feeding your ******ed brain, do some research and tax your 6 brain cells a bit. Question for you now Florence Nightingale; If Youre so concerned about the welfare and health of fighters, why dont you want it banned, or reduced to 3 rounds or have headguards introduced or some other safety measure implemented?
I love the sport but respect the dangers of it and I see no reason to make it anymore dangerous.. Please can you explain why 15rds would be more decisive than 12? 3 more rounds = more punches exchanged = more danger.. If fighters were to pace themselves more if it went to 15 this would be totally pointless also as you'd get the same amount of action/punches exchanged but just strung out over 15rds :deal Please explain to me why 15rds is better for anyone!
Not about endurance? Well it was for the old boxers and I'm afraid it's still THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF BOXING!!:-(
Training and conditioning superiority wins fights, plain and simple, and even more so with 15 rounds. "The Championship rounds" Imagine if PW and MArtinez went 15 rounds....Would PW maintain his workrate? Would he have won more clearly because Martinez was sucking air in the 9th. He was reduced to clinching and throwing short shots that were generally ineffective. I feel like he would have worn down and he would have been throwing bombs at the end. PW could have done a few more rounds without any question. I dunno, maybe it would have been 149-137:-( Imagine the best fights in the history of the sport without the last three rounds. Would smaller gloves make for quicker KO's like UFC? Would that help reduce brain injury by reducing the number of punches taken overall? I mean, they used to let fights go WAY longer than they do these days. The gloves are bigger. Boxing is not a pretty sport, people get hurt whilst taking blows. It is two men fighting for their lives or they should be anyway. You can only protect the quarterback so much you know. Pac/Marquez fight with 6 more rounds to decide a winner....you do the math, the odds are better that it would be settled with 3 extra rounds. Hard to argue that I think
i liked the 15 rnd format, not because of the action or the extra endurance required, but because the odd number of rounds would create less draws. in the fight this wknd more rounds wouldn't have helped, the judge goosen paid off would have it 13rnds for williams instead of 10. what needs to happen, is judges with radically biased score cards need to be suspended, and investigated before they even leave ringside. problem: who is going to do this? the governing bodies are responsible for the corruption. that was another great fight that got poisoned by typical boxing bull****.