George Foreman's chin 1st career/2nd career

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  1. THEHAMMER321

    THEHAMMER321 New Member Full Member

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    At the end of his first career nobody was talking about Foreman having a good chin,but in his second career Foreman indeed showed a tremendous chin,why do you think he was able to absorb punishment this time around.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Relaxation, feeling at home in the ring.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think if Ron Lyle lands a smacker on old Foreman, he would have still gone down.
     
  4. clark

    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Granite chin. Both careers. Lyle's punch in the first round was right on the temple.
    Probably would have killed any other fighter.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good thing Foreman didn't get involved in slugfests like that in his second career, huh?

    He actually knew how to cover up and ride out the storm.
     
  6. lefthook31

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    Holy had him reeling if I remember correctly, but I believe George learned to tuck his chin and cross his arms to defend himself better in his second career. He took some pretty good beatings in his second career, so there was no doubt he was getting hit cleanly.
     
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    God, the way Holy laid into him it's amazing he don't get stopped.
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Insane leg strength, more weight. That helps, but he has one superb chin especially in his 2nd reign due to these factors. Love watching Foreman pull the trucks in training. What a beast.
     
  9. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More relaxed. His stamina 'improved' for the same reason.

    Becoming a big fat thing could improve your chin as well, as it lowers your center of gravity.
     
  10. GregDempsey

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    some guys mentioned it....being more relaxed..he didnt throw himself into punches as much, threw more correctly..so less force on counters..because he wasnt falling into the opponents punches...fact that he got fatter..but also more muscle...thicker neck..more body mass for the force to go into. physicalogically just tougher, less doubts in his mind.
     
  11. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    Eh, during his second career, I don't think he fought the people who would have been capable of a knockout. Lennox Lewis or Tyson would certainly get a knockout over George.

    Having said that, I think it's amazing that Shannon Briggs couldn't drop him. Foreman also took shots from Holyfield without going down. Although Holyfield isn't a real knockout puncher, he is capable of dropping anybody with his counterpunches and angles.

    In a nutshell, I think George's chin remained the same, but his new "relaxed" mindset certainly contributed.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hmm? Explain.
     
  13. GregDempsey

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    Yeah I read that in Foreman's books...his trainer would have him dehaydrate himself before the fight...based on some idea that it would make him sharper...no water....so really foreman should have been maybe 230 of muscle for most of those fights, and of course being dehaydrated not only hurts your stanima...you also lose cerbal fluid and that makes it easier to get knocked out. But yeah, his trainer back then would only allow him to have some small piecas of ice chips in the day before the fight. Really Stupid.
     
  14. TBooze

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    Foreman was a bit more of a cutie second time round. But if caught fair and square, he was still there for taking, it was just that Ken Lakusta was fun, but no Ron Lyle...
     
  15. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think his chin improved considerably during his second career, through greater relaxation and increased muscle mass. The short hook Cooney drove through him probably would have dropped him in the 1970s. (Gerry never was able to hit Spinks or Holmes like that. George was the only man who ever stood up to his best shot.) Conversely, I believe the mature Foreman might have stood up under Lyle's bombs.

    George took some tremendous hooks from Morrison without apparent distress, and took it from Stewart for ten rounds. He displayed toughness during his second career which wasn't tested when he was a youth. No one dropped him after Jimmy Young, a streak of 34 bouts. Savarese, Briggs and Moorer had pretty good stoppage percentages, so it seems respectable that Foreman could take it from them in an extended contest.