Peter throwing his career away!!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Chief_Second, Oct 8, 2007.


  1. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He may well have been at his fighting weight but he looked seriously out of shape to me. Fat sack.
     
  2. fightingmajor

    fightingmajor New Member Full Member

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    Peter has the best physical talent base to build from in the division, but he does appear to be on the verge of wasting his talent due to lack of conditioning. His training has got to dramtically change if he is to reach the top of the division.

    This fight fits into similar historical patterns for HW's when a fighter struggles against a late replacement. Holyfield was in trouble against Bert Cooper, who was a late replacememt as did Ali in the same situation.

    However, it is clear that Peter had better get his fat ass in shape if he wants to reach his potential.
     
  3. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is really nothing special about his jab. It's got some pop on it but it is slow and telegraphed and when he throw it he leaves himself wide open to be coutnered.

    Wlad is so much more talented than peter it's strange to even hear them compared in the same sentence. Wlad throws text book punches, he has much greater handspeed. His punches are straight down the middle while peter's are telegraphed in looping.
     
  4. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Peter is nowhere near as good as some people would have you believe. He is crude, one dimensional, and his power or at least the ability to deliver it effectively is extremely overrated. He just isn't that great, and never has been. The more fights he has against legit top 10 heavyweights the more apparent that will become
     
  5. Cage

    Cage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what the hell are you guys blabbing about conditioning for? He had a good punch output for 12 rounds. How is that unconditioned???

    He only weighed 1 more pound than he did for the second JT fight.

    When he was up and coming. . people ran their mouth that he was 1 dimensional

    He works on his boxing skills and head movement. . now apparently thats not enough for people

    He gets floored REALLY 1 time by a huge monstrous uppercut from a guy that probably had 30 pounds and 4 inches height on him. . now all the sudden hes "glass jawed"

    seriously. . what do people expect from the man?
     
  6. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is simply the most ridiculous thing I've ever read here.
     
  7. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In our knockout obsessed world, Peter, like almost all guys who come on the scene with a lot of flashy knockouts, gets overrated.

    This vast improvement that the announcers keep talking about with Peter is nonsense to me. I think Peter has added more jabbing but he is still very one-dimensional. His defense is amateurish. He'll always be susceptible to an accomplished boxer. He's too slow and predictable but he's good enough to beat the vast majority of the heavies on the scene today.
     
  8. swedeone

    swedeone Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is such nonsense. C'mon man, try a be a little fair for cripes sake. :patsch

    Sam has a good chin despite this past showing. he has a very good jab for a short HW. He has a super hook as well. He does need to imrove on his right hand and straighten it out quite a bit. He also needs to improve his defense. But saying that he is talent-less is just assinine.
    BTW... he's got some heart as well. There are others that would have never made it out of those early rounds if they were clocked like he was. :yep
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Peter's best punch? His jab
     
  10. swedeone

    swedeone Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :rofl

    Yeahh.. ask jeremy Williams what his best punch is and something tells me you'll get a much different answer.

    Can't make the shyt up sometimes, I swear. :nut
     
  11. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    Ok. To be fair, he had a great chin before he fought Klitschko and would go right trough McCline's punches back then. However, that fight obviously left a mark. The important question is how big of a mark???

    His jab is decent at most. His defense is still awful. The first improvement he needs is to get into a good shape to improve his mobility and endurance which are interrelated to his defense, speed and punch strength at the later rounds.
     
  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    No doubt some of the support for Peter came from Klit-haters, but some of us were excited about him because we love hard-hitting HWs who knock people OUT and can take a punch.

    Unfortunately, based on recent performance, all of this is now subject to doubt. I haven't given up on Peter - remember, he's still young - but things don't look as bright as when I first heard about him several years ago.
     
  13. getup

    getup Say Yeah! Full Member

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    im always impressed when a guy gets floored or rock bad gets up and COMES forward and wins a fight!!!!sam looks solid at 250...,hes not gonna show good boxing skill against tall opponents.never has never will.but some one more his size and height hes shown he can box.go back and watch the last haly of his second fight with toney.the guy put punches together and moved.against tall guys hes forced to come forward...,

    hell be ok...,i sure hes still all about takin olegs head right off!!!!!:deal

    DAN LAW
     
  14. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    Beat me to it.
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    His left hook is obviously much harder than his jab, but his jab is long, quick for a guy of his build, and powerful. The key to him winning the McCline fight and the second Toney fight was the jab.