We're comparing Hamed to Tyson... specifically we're comparing the way Hamed and Tyson went **** after, y'know, they stopped training and stuff. Are others burdened with really ****-poor comprehension skills?
Naz didn't realise his potential. That's his biggest crime. I'm not sure he could have beaten Barrera, but he could definitely have given a much better account of himself. If he'd done that then people would be a lot less likely to belittle him now. Naseem Hamed was an elite class talent that "only" developed to world class, so he falls short of being ranked with the very best. And it's entirely his own fault. One thing you can't take away from him, though... he was an absolute joy to watch.
Dude, listen to yourself. Hamed beat Bungu...that's it. Barrera was levels above Hamed in terms of ability. Better offensive skills, better defense, better combination puncher, better footwork, and mostly importantly, his resume is leaps and leaps above Hamed's, and he achieved more throughout his career. ...People, your all blinded by Hamed going out there and knocking out cab drivers. He more flash than substance.
I think comparisons between Hamed and Tyson are well founded (Although Id leave Douglas to one side). An incredible amount of natural skill, cleaned up the whole of a good (but not great) division in style, then decided to believe his own hype. From that not only did training slip but he began to underestimate his opponents and ended up paying the price. Im not saying he would've beaten Barrera had things been different. I think Barrera was the perfect antidote to Hamed's style, but the Prince could have gone on to beat most others. I think he came crashing down to earth after that loss and was too embarrassed to carry on. He didn't want to get beaten like that again and I bet it scared him.
To say he was 28 and unbeaten sounds good on paper, but all he had left was his punch. The Hamed that no one could lay a glove on was no more at that stage. He would have ended up like Roy Jones if he had continued fighting, and he knew it.
...There's a common misconception here people. When a fighter who's dominating C levels suddenly moves up in class and gets hit more and gets knocked down often, he isn't past him prime, he's just stepping up to world level.
Stylistically Hamed was just a poor, lesser skilled version of Herol Graham, who made it work at world level because of his great power. Had some strong physical attributes, but never really learned to fight with a technically efficient style. He did beat a good number of solid fighters, though like has been said, the better ones like Vasquez and JOhnson were clearly past their best, even if still champions.
Have you seen his party camp before the Barrera fight. I watched it and felt really bad for him. He had a party with his friends, and did not train for it. He did not even have any serious sparring for it. He would have lost against alot of fighters with that camp.
Okay, so say he was 80% for this fight, it doesn't take away the fact that he got absolutely schooled. You know why? Because no amount of training can help the fact that stylistically, he was found out. It was just a matter of time before someone figured out his style, and Barerra had the skill to do.
In no way, shape or form can someone be shot when they have an unbeaten record and are 28 years old. Unless of course they have a freak accident and nearly die or what not. Maybe, just maybe he declined a little bit, but shot..No no no.
He fort he didnt have to train because he was going knock everybody out and when Barerra beat him he didnt wanna know after that because he knew ther would be other fighters like Barrera who would have his number..... One of the best british fighter of all time though no doubt...... Floyd Mayweather jr called Hamed out just watched the interview there... Floyd would have dismantled him.
Barrera, Barrera, Barrera, I reckon his names been mentioned more than Hamed's on this thread, thats all he'll be remembered for in the end but he deserves more. Nas should have fought a rematch with Barrera (he would have lost again) but thats completely irrelevant on this thread we're looking at his resume for what it is. Forget the hype and Barrera for a moment and you have a very solid resume, Addie's a good poster but calling Nas' opponents cab drivers is ridiculous but I think hes getting upset with people saying a prime Nas beats Barrera (he doesnt) so I'll let it go. He fought and beat everybody around and some very decent fighters, Robinson, Johnson, Kelley, Ingle and Bungu are all highly respectable wins and Belcastro, Medina, Vazquez, McCullough, Soto and Sanchez certainly arent 'cab drivers'. Nas fought his share of bums but hasnt everybody? You can only fight who is around at the time and Nas did that, knocking most of them out in the process, he should have continued but didnt, its time to get over that fact and start looking at his career for what it is, which isnt bad by any means.
Best post in this thread and I concede that I've acted a little untoward. When you hear such garbage aimed at your favorite fighter though, you'll have to excuse me for not speaking up. Hamed was a good fighter in his own right. He wasn't untapped potential because he could only fight one way, and that way would have always been exposed by the elite champions. You can't expect to stand in front of Marco with your chin in the air and not to get leathered. Marco was insanely good at Featherweight, the best since Sanchez for my money...some would argue Azumah. In any case, Hamed got as far as his style would allow.