To those of you who ARE suspicious of Pac...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Xavier, Dec 24, 2009.


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  1. Xavier

    Xavier Boxing Logician Full Member

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    And have been since the "trial" began with May Sr's comments.


    Just so we're clear on this issue - what are your reasons for being suspicious of Pac in the 1st place?


    Now if you are to take May Sr's comments on board (getting through the gibberish), it paints a particular picture. What he said was that as Pacquiao continued to rise through the weight classes - his performances far exceeded expectations. That we have
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    - a little guy moving up the weights and knocking people out left right and centre. It ain't normal, man.

    Going by this analysis, you are basically calling Pac a superhuman :shock:. Because if you agree his actions within the squared circle have been a little too remarkable to be achieved without performance enhancers, you are giving him a certain kind of kudos.


    Which is inconsistent (but not totally contradictory) with how many (of the same people who now accuse Pac of doping, and indeed Floyd himself) viewed this fight in the first place,
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    . So how come the tune changes now?


    See I for one don't think it's worthwhile to do this extra testing. I still feel nothing that remarkable was achieved. While I do give Pac huge credit for his last 3 outings - calling them superhuman is taking it a little far. My view is consistent. I think Money May will win. Given the current state of fighters and their boxing (history & skills), May will take the V. Why is this not the same for FMJ fans, or even self-proclaimed Floydettes?



    The only other thing I can think of is a discussion I was previously having with another poster re: Manny's body size. We both came to some conclusions, though I can't really say anything for sure because I am unfamiliar with Manny's EXACT training regime the past few years. Yes that does make a big difference, in case you're wondering.

    I then have to ask why Manny's supposed seismic muscular gain never came into question before this fight.

    Further, if you now take this angle, then I assume you have to concede that Manny is a lot bigger than most are making out, and therefore has a better chance of victory against the supposed larger opponent. After all, packing on all this muscle and additional KO power that is supposedly freakish in nature (I don't think so at all, remember) means that there are definate concerns these will be a problem for Floyd in the fight.


    You can't have it both ways. All I ask is that you be consistent.
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac is gonna test clean. His fans, rightly so, will say "see, Pac is so good that you all falsely thought he had to be on steroids".

    The haters will come back and say somethig along the lines of "Who cares, if Floyd beats him then he ain't **** anyways" not taking into account that they thought Pac had to be on steroids to even be at a point where he is stepping into the ring against Floyd.

    If Floyd wins then after the fight, the Floyd fans who are now saying that Pac is on steroids will say "see, Floyd was better than Pac all along". Well if he was better than Pac all along then why did you think Pac had to be on steroids to do what he did?
     
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  3. silly_illy

    silly_illy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How dare you critisize Mayweather Snr! he use to be a drug dealer which makes him an expert on the subject! :nono
     
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  4. tomhighway

    tomhighway Member Full Member

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    It's a psychological war that will backfire on Mayweather when Pac tests clean. Duckie has the upper hand in the war right now but it will turn flipside in due course.

    You can bet your bottom dollar they're working out their next excuse as we speak.
     
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  5. Xavier

    Xavier Boxing Logician Full Member

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    Any thoughts from the suspicion detectives??? :?


    :think
     
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  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Pac man has already lost the psychological fight by pulling out because of the testing. He must be a cry baby afraid of an injection. Obviously they have something to hide.
     
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  7. 4life

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    You have a very good argument and I'm pretty sure none of these joyboys will dare answer you. There suspicions are based solely on the comments of a bitter carckhead, who sees pacquaio as a threat to his son and who's fighter ( hatton ) got pasted in 2 rounds.
     
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  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what wrong with a proper testing procedure ? this **** would not have been a big deal if pac would have just taken the ****ing test instead of coming with excuses for not taking it.
     
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  9. One Punch Power

    One Punch Power New Member Full Member

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    Amazing what good pawns the Mayweather morons are. No mind of their own. No sense of reality, just go with whatever the guy says at any given time. And keep making up the rules as you go along - weight limits, testing policies.

    I heard Mayweather wants the rounds in this fight to be 4 minutes - LETS GO WITH THAT! Who cares that they've been three minutes for the last 100 years, Mayweather wants it that way! Pac must be afraid I guess??? If he wasn't afraid he would be ok with 4 minute rounds, right guys? He also wants 22 oz gloves. Pac must be afraid of a pillow fight, right?

    Bottom line - the rules are the rules. You don't change them for one fight and one fighter and you don't attack the guy who understands that (Pac) and the defend the little weasel who wants everyone to cater to him (Gayweather).
     
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  10. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    On the other hand, don't you think Floyd already lost the psychological fight when they insisted on testing somethign which was groundless and unprecedented. Do you think if Floyd Snr wasn't scared for his son that this would have happened?

    The Mayweather's are scared of Pacquiao, that is fact.

    And they are still scared by making stipulations here and there in regards to the testing.
     
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  11. theHawtness

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    why do want pac to undergo what no boxer has ever underwent before? because of crackhead snr's suspicion. if crackhead sr. says the earth is flat, i bet these floydettes will believe it.
     
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  12. Xavier

    Xavier Boxing Logician Full Member

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    No, but you're not answering my question - what makes you think this test is necessary in the first place?

    You clearly have to figure something is up - since these "extra" tests are outside the conventional testing procedures. That much is indisputable.

    Which brings me back to my original point - you have to be in a position where you believe he is an extraordinary fighter who poses a big problem for Floyd if you're accusing him of this.

    Which strangely contrasts with the earlier assessments most of the same guys had when they called this an "easy" fight for Floyd.
     
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  13. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IDIOT, do you really understand what you are reading? Or, you're not reading at all, just riding whatever is on the FLOYDETTES menu? Where does it say PAC is afraid of blood testing? :hat
     
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  14. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Team Pac should issue a statement saying that both Sr. & Roger Mayweather must be drug tested before being allowed to work the corner. :yep
     
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  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let start with this it was larry merchant that firs accused pac of using Roids.

    second Floyd will also be taking the same test , No exception

    Third if Pac has nothing to hid then take the dame test and be done with it .

    What make so special that he should be excluded from suspicion, we can roast baseball player like Arod, and barry bonds but not Manny palease..!!!

    Everyone knows the boxing commission testing is out dated and has been proven to be so many times, starting with Rjj botched test, Shane mosley passing a urine test more then once. So floyd asking that he and Pac fight on even terms is too??

    Then Fine, Floyd should take what ever enhancement drugs he wants test clean and whoop the blessed **** out of pac's ass. let see how pac fan like that !!
     
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