What are the facts?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ripcity, Dec 25, 2009.


  1. wendel

    wendel Member Full Member

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    Yup good reply... here's one for you too... :patsch
     
  2. wendel

    wendel Member Full Member

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    Anyone with knowledge of steroids would also know that it's detectable in urine... which Manny agreed to... at any time..
     
  3. pwright2k

    pwright2k Member Full Member

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    not sure, but i think a trainer could always use the "my fighter's levels are off b/c he just fought 12 grueling and adrenaline pumping rds. come back in a couple of days and we'll try the test again when his body has healed a bit", story.
     
  4. HONDA2006

    HONDA2006 Member Full Member

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    they are testing for HGH not steroids dumb ass...

    HGH is not detectable in urine...
     
  5. rinnyc

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    I'd like to know if this is actually the case, there are articles quoting Roach saying a blood samples are fine as long as they are not too close to the fight.

    Here is one saying a week out is fine:

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12183_5795626,00.html

    A cut off of drawing blood - say a few days or a week before the fight and giving sample immediately after the fight is more than reasonable.
     
  6. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    I wonder what the Mayweathr camp would do next if ever Team Pac agrees to these unusual demands. It is so obvious they just made this outrageous idea having a good scenario in them not to be blamed if this fight will not push through.
     
  7. According to Roaches most recent interview, all he wants if the 5 days prior to the fight to be free. That may or may not be true.
     
  8. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    You can't find HGH itself in urine.

    You can prove that someone has been using HGH from urine tests though.

    This seems to be a difficult concept for some people to grasp. :patsch
     
  9. wendel

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    Also a simple google search has revealed "Scientists say breakthrough urine test for HGH developed" ... http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-07-22-hgh-urine-test_N.htm
     
  10. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Yes or no answers please.

    Is having a tattoo done exactly the same thing as having blood drawn?

    Did Pac have a tattoo done and then fight in a world championship title fight within 5 days?

    Do people still get injections even if they have a phobia of needles?

    If you avoid giving yes/no answers to these questions then you are admitting that you don't have a real point.
    If you answer truthfully then you will prove that you don't have a real point.
     
  11. HONDA2006

    HONDA2006 Member Full Member

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    show me the link...
     
  12. daydachamp

    daydachamp Active Member Full Member

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    here it is, loudly. are you trying to act as if the offer from manny pacquiao to take an equally conclusive, better timed blood test directly after the bout is not already on the table?
    better timed in that it would ensure that both boxers blood levels remain uncompromised for the fight night...if so, there's a name for that... it's called denial.
    don't keep clinging to the term random. there is nothing random about scheduling a three day window to test pryor to the fight. 2 to 5 days is flat specific.
    the offer is equally there for floyd to accept or duck.
     
  13. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Start with the post two above yours.

    Then thoroughly read this thread:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194153

    In it we have the only person who has posted about this issue on ESB who is even remotely qualified to speak on the subject. He explains a few things.

    Beware if you are a ***** though, your mind may suffer an allergic reaction to the gratuitous use of facts.
     
  14. daydachamp

    daydachamp Active Member Full Member

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    kevin, your arguement is iron clad there. it lacks evidence, reason , or even a point.
    then your only info utilisation represented on this thread is again to falsly claim that scheduling a window of time to conduct a test is random.
    if it's random you need, then make it randomly after the fight instead of randomly before.
    agree to test now and after the match and the fight is made... simple .
    shoe fits on the other foot too. how about that.
     
  15. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Phobic reaction to needles. :rofl

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