Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud

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  1. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Nowhere in the rules of the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc. does it say they need olympic style testing either, but I bet you they'd all catch more cheaters and eventually at least significantly reduce the number of athletes trying to cheat if they used the best methods available. Remember, 5-6 years ago MLB didn't even have a PED policy in place. I'm sure Barry Bonds, Rafael Palmeiro, AFraud, etc. would have liked to have stuck to the rules they had used their entire careers.
     
  2. bonds

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    If you're going to drug testing why dont you get the best, most thorough, and respected drug testing organization to do the testing?

    Is it not somewhat shady that Arum wants this organization to do the testing:

    Did the Nevada State Athletic Commission Do an Adequate Job Drug Testing for UFC 100?


    "None of the fighters on the UFC 100 card were subjected to the Nevada State Athletic Commission's out-of-competition drug testing program, as confirmed by NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer on Sunday morning.

    Out-of-competition drug tests differ from the NSAC's usual drug tests in the sense that with the out-of-competition testing, fighters do not know when they are going to be tested ahead of time.

    Drug testing on the day of the weigh-in or the day of the fight is, of course, going to fail to detect a significant percentage of dopers because they will have had weeks to use advanced methods of flushing performance-enhancing drugs out of their bodies.
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    Even when no other out-of-competition drug testing is performed, the NSAC usually orders out-of-competition tests to be performed on fighters who have previously failed drug tests in the state of Nevada.

    In the case of UFC 100, that was not done. Stephan Bonnar was not ordered to take an out-of-competition drug test, despite the fact that Bonnar previously tested positive for Boldenone after a fight against Forrest Griffin in 2006. Boldenone is an anabolic steroid used by veterinarians to rehabilitate injured horses."


    Yeah looks to me with the NSAC I wouldnt be surprised if Pacquaio did not get a single random test at all what kind of a joke is this...
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Should be left to the boxing commissions, not Mayweather, to decide what drug testing boxing needs.
     
  4. duneford

    duneford Active Member Full Member

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    floyd demands are for sissy and ***** like him.....so why fight the *****? i never leave he intends to fight pac or anybody who has a chance to beat him.....that's his legacy in boxing....
     
  5. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    They should get on it, but they haven't and I'm sure they won't anytime soon. I don't really give a **** who it's left to. I think it's a great idea. Switch the roles around and I bet the overwhelming majority (****, probably all) of the *******s here are saying Mayweather should just take the ****ing tests.
     
  6. bonds

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    Im hearing different reasons.

    Is it because he's scared of needles?

    Is it because it will drain his energy to fight?

    Or is it because he wants the Nevada State Athletic Commission to do it? What if the NSAC was to make him do a random blood test the day before the fight? What is the difference to him of the NSAC doing the tests rather than the USADA?
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    NSAC don't do a blood test the day before the fight. That will be part of the deal. They'll definately do one right after though.
     
  8. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who are YOU to say what a boxer and cant request for one of his matches?

    Boxers have made specific requests for their fights since the beginning of boxing, on things that are usually left to the commision. Ring size, glove size, judges, referees, weights... The commisions stance has always been that if two fighters can agree they allow it.

    And now YOU want to say that PED testing should off limit?
     
  9. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    floyds gay style doesnt use much energy but mannys style does. If i was manny i wouldnt let some one take my blood out just before a fight either. Manny style is about workrate and he needs all his blood. Floyd is just trying to weaken him.
     
  10. YAGBOLSCO

    YAGBOLSCO Member Full Member

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    Yeah easy fight...easier than JMM.:good

    Just tell us the truth FLOYD,you are scared of MANNY.:deal
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seriously your going to question the USADA?
     
  12. manboo

    manboo New Member Full Member

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    half a percent of blood should amount to about 0.5 lbs of blood thats a **** load of blood. Bullsh*t it wont affect the athlete.
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets compare floyd demand vs pac

    Pac demands

    8oz glove / done
    10 million every pound over / done
    march 13/ done

    Floyd
    Olympic style testing / Denied Pac won't do it.
     
  14. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    It's obvious that someone doesn't want to fight, offers from the Pacquiao camp.

    Unlimited urinalysis and 3 scheduled blood tests with USADA. Mayweather NO

    With $10 million monetary reward if Pacquiao comes in dirty. Mayweather NO

    Guarantee that there will be no testings before the fight, USADA we will not compromise our testings for an event.

    Use of agency that tests MLB, NBA, or NFL with whatever random blood or urine tests they want. Mayweather NO

    Use of NSAC with whatever random blood or urine tests they want. Mayweather NO

    They've tried to make this fight, it's time to move on. F#ck Floyd, he doesn't deserve the pay-day. Even his sparring partner Judah wants to fight Pacquiao.

    Judah: "Bring your skills to the ring (Pacquiao)."

    Where boxing talks

    Once again, Pacquiao has had NO PROBLEM of the drug tests. 1:29
    Roach, Koncz, and Pacquiao want cut off dates, STILL NO GO.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvHGjEgX-M&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
     
  15. bonds

    bonds Active Member Full Member

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    both athletes would be subject to the same testing protocol so they are both going through the same thing and the usada testing procedure doesnt mean he would be tested the day or days before the fight... tests are totally random and no times when testing will or wont take place can be disclosed as it would give a cheater an unfair advantage