Manny Pacquiao is scared of needles...

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    10oz at 154. im glad its at 147 using 8oz but that is what pac wanted. negotiations is all about advantages. 10mil fine is certainly a big advantage wouldnt you say.

    i dont really see a drug test as a major advantage. especially when you have to face them as well.

    i cant believe people are actually trying to defend NOT having stricter drug testing. this is brillant.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    :lol::shock: Only after tough negotiations. I believe they wanted a circular ring.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    People arn't defending not having stricter drug testing, they are asking why it should be for this fight and at the Mayweathers say so.
     
  4. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    That you don't know all the facts in relation to your 'argument'? I agree.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I do know all the arguments. I know they can ask for as many tests as they want but that wouldn't happen. They won't be taking tests every day. Realistically they are saying two. The issue is to WHEN. Pacs saying 30 days prior and the day after but guys can cycle drugs to avoid these dates.

    Pacs reaction is overboard.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4772853

    It looks like the fight will go ahead cos they are negotiating like they should have in the beginning.

    The pac apologists and the rest of us can calm down now.
     
  6. Truth Is

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    Who is "they". The only thing that I have seen quoted from Pac is that drawing blood immediately before the fight 'would weaken him'. This is the exact thing he said after his loss against EM, (by the way he passed that test too). He never again allowed blood to be taken before a fight and has never lost since.

    As for the weakening claim, other atheletes that have passed the blood test have also complained about the Olympic Committe doing random tests because the intrusiveness could affect their performance. The Olympic Team that said this said it sometime after Pac's comments after the EM fight and after they won the Gold medal.

    This accusing folks of something you have no proof of should be banned. This has happened to many an Afican American athelete in times past so FM should be sensitive to that. Some could not believe the athletisicm of the opposing athelete and accused them of cheating just because their favorite athelete could not run as fast, or jump as high, or move as quickly. If you have proof, that is one thing. If not, you should be sued.

    By the way, if I could advise Pac, I would tell him to do exactly what he is doing. Sue FM and his Dad for the 40 mill and then beat up Paul M. That way, he will collect 50 mill and will only have to box no more than 12 rounds. This move could set FM back 80 mill. Even if Pac doesn't win the lawsuit, this move hurts FM worse than it would Pac. Remember, it was Floyd who immediately paid the IRS after the JMM fight. Between the two, FM needs Pac more than Pac needs him.
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Arum said he is scared of needles.

    By the way, I do think athletes should be continously tested via urine, blood and saliva. It's the only way to catch these guys. Too many athletes are taking drugs and there should be a zero tolerance policy. Guys should be petrified to be caught with it in their system.
     
  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Hypothetical Question: If both Pac and Mayweather fail the drug tests will the winner of the proposed Hatton-JMM fight become the new P4P champion??

    ;O)
     
  9. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    No they will only be interim P4P champ Gaz, the winner will have to fight Bernard Hopkins to determine an outright champ ;)
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    :lol:

    Thanks for clearing that up mate!!:good
     
  12. Truth Is

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    My point exactly.
     
  13. Truth Is

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    Agreed.
     
  14. icemax

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    Not true...Marion Jones was actually jailed for not admitting to taking PEDs to a grand jury. She only admitted to taking these drugs after a tip-off to the authorities by Trevor Graham, the same Trevor Graham who works with Freddie Roach
     
  15. Truth Is

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    My point is, the Olympic testing did not discover the PEDs. So why is everyone pointing to it as the holy grail.