What else can Floyd do to get Pacq in the ring?

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  1. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  3. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funny how this topic died once that article was brought up.
     
  4. rauer

    rauer Member Full Member

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    Holding on to blood samples for long periods of time is standard procedure. This is nothing new. lance Armstrong blood test are on record and in storage from over a decade ago.

    And yes- we should expect any and every boxer to go through this if they are a suspected user. Shouldn't really be a big issue- unless the fighter declines to take the test. Then we have a smoking gun.
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So everyone should go through this kind of testing b/c everyone should be a suspect if all it takes is a crack head to make these kinds of allegations without any solid proof or evidence.
     
  6. hmm

    hmm damn chairs Full Member

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    hmm says . . .

    he can pull a Bhop flag incident...
     
  7. rauer

    rauer Member Full Member

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    Look this is a part of boxing whether you like it or not. These are professionals that need to do their job of competing in boxing in a fair and clean manner. This is ONLY difficult because of lack of governing body.

    Allegations are typically not made at random- there are reasons for them. And when you have an entire community within boxing that has questions- investigation yields answers. Contrary to popular belief this is not a Floyd sr thing, not a Malignaggi thing, not Shane Mosley thing- this is a boxing and PR thing. Pacq's name has been dirty for a long time. Actually surprised is took this long for someone to find these things unacceptable.

    For further reading I suggest the follwing article:
    http://www.***********.com/?m=show&id=24319
     
  8. rauer

    rauer Member Full Member

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    ABOVE-

    sweet science scene
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Floyd agreed to $10million per pound. That is an unprecedented demand....floyd went above and beyond there.
     
  10. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are reason for these kinds of allegations. If you look at the source...its coming from Floyd and his team. Who are suppose to be facing Manny. The demand was there and they waited until after the Cotto vs PAC fight to make these allegations. That's funny to me.

    For the longest time PAC has been viewed by the mayweathers as nothing special and there were exucses after exuces to why PAC was winning and doing well. None of the excuses were PEDs or roids related until they knew they were next in line to face him.

    The rumors they started were meant to give Floyd an out if he decided he didn't want to take a risk of loosing his "0" against someone who could provide him his toughest challenge.

    PAC is not dirty...never has been and never will be. What is dirty is the tatic Floyd and his daddy used to get out of a fight where he could avoid stating he doesn't want it....he could manipulate the situation by coming up with these rumors and then stall negoitations with demand after demand to the point where the other side is fed up ad closes the negotiations down....which is exactly what happened.

    Bottom line is that Floyd ****ed up the fight for boxing...Not PAC. No other fighters like Devon Alexander, Bradely, Paulie or Zab want additional testing on PAC. Only Floyd.....and he'll stick to those guns b/c that is his only way to save face. he don't want to say he doesn't want to risk loosing...he'd rather put someone elses repuation on the line to take the heat.:yep
     
  11. rauer

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    Charlie-

    These rumors (and thats what they are- until proven true or false) are very old. I remember seeing Pacq fight in LA back in 2002 and people were talking about him and roids. This is not a recent occurence. I think it was Emmanuel Lucero in the 2002 time frame when these rumors started circulating. Pacq showed up to that fight noticably SMALLER than his previous fight. Word was that he was looking to go even bigger which was true because soon after he fought Barrera for the 1st time. This is nothing new- its just in the spot light now because Pacq is the current fad in boxing and because a fighter (PBF) finally decided to put a stop to the doping ways.

    The other fighters you mentioned don't have the kind of pull or weight leverage to negotiate drug testing polices. Nobody could ever get away with that outside of Floyd.
     
  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rauer......Show me the article where PAC was accused back in 2002 of being on roids. The very first time ANYONE has mentioned PAC and Roids in the same breath has been just recently and the creator of the rumors was Mayweather Jr and SR. Show me any article that incorporates roid and PAC before 2009 and I'll give you props. Now...myself.....I've looked through old archived articles about PAC after these allegations came about and I found absolutely NOTHING. If you can do it better, please do so and I'll give you your props.

    The only thing Floyd decided to do was avoid having to pull out of a fight by gumming up negotiations with a well though out move to discredit pretty much the only fighter who has a shot at beating him within his weight class.
     
  13. rauer

    rauer Member Full Member

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    Nobody wrote articles on Manny Pacq in 2002- he was a nobody. Additionally, internet boxing coverage was a drop in the bucket compared to todays websites and forums. But if you must have so-called evidence (which, coincidentally is what Floyd wants as well) then watch Friday night fights around that time frame. They did a doping segment in boxing and Pacq was mentioned.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    All he needs to do is drop the blood testing demands and the fight is on.

    simple as that.

    ring size is standard in Nevada.
    glove size is standard for the WW division.
    purse split is even and more than Floyd will have ever made.
    date is 6 months after his last fight, which is perfect.
    weight is 147 which at this point is Floyd's best weightclass.
    Location is in Floyd's home town.

    And none of Pac's previous opponents have requested blood testing.

    tbh its very easy for him to have this fight go though