Pacquiao and Roach are the worst thing to happen to boxing:

Lance_Uppercut · Dec 28, 2009

rauer said: ↑

Yes, Manny is fun to watch and very explosive, quick, etc. I personally saw him a couple times dating back to 2002 in L.A. He is great and love the fighting spirit and his humble (previously) attitude. But now he has changed into this monster this appears to feel that everything is owed to him. Pacq really has not accomplished a whole lot. DLH, hatton, and JMM victories are great and wins... but they were not grade A competiton.

As i said I am a huge Pacq fan- he jsut doesnt deserve the type of fanfare and such that he is receiving. Its like buying your child a new car- because they bring home an "A" on a test in Gym class. Its an easy class- nothing special in achieving that.
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No, you're a huge ****...

kalunya5964 · Dec 28, 2009

rauer said: ↑

Pacq and Roach are clearly the worst thing to happen to boxing the past decade.

Pacq is one of the most overrated and underwhelming fighters in recent memory. This is hurting boxing as many casual boxing fans are now believing that Manny has talent and/or skills. People are listening to media reports that have little to no knowlege of actual boxing. Manny ain't that great. His lack of head movement, his jumping in style, and poor defense are exciting to watch- but lack any real skill.

Roach has recently become very outspoken with the advent of 24/7. Freddy now opens his mouth any chance he gets and he hurts his own fighters with his excuses. He claimed Cotto wasnt the same fighter, he said DLH was drained, Hatton was never any good, etc- all reducing Manny's chances at becoming and developing into a special fighter someday. More importantly, Roach has been linked to way too many steroid fighters in the past- just check his resume. With the latest Pacq controversy- this is just the same old thing from the Wild Card gym. Drugs and Roach riding the coattales of his fighter(s).
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If you're not idiot, Pac, Roach and boxers at Wild Card gym could sue for defamation!:yep

sbak · Dec 28, 2009

Jaguar said: ↑

Pacquiao has brought a lot of casual fans to the sport, and with them a considerable amount of money. In that respect, he is good for the sport of boxing. However I agree that Pacq is bad for the sweet science. People do not appreciate what a true boxer is, nor do they understand the skills necessary to be a complete fighter. It's sad that what most of today's fans know about boxing they learned by watching Pacq attack washed up and drained fighters with that straight ahead no defense style. Pacquiao makes boxing look like a tough man competition, and sadly enough that's what people want and are paying to see.

The general consensus is that someone like Manny is a better boxer than someone like Mosley or Mayweather simply because the fan boys have jumped on his back or swing from his nuts. Pacq will be exposed as the charlatan he is, and then boxing will lose a lot of popularity.

Manny Pacquiao is to boxing what Chuck Lidell is/was to MMA. He is what Shaq is to basketball, what enforcers are to hockey, and what Bret "Mr. Interception" Favre is to football. He is limited yet effective, and the biggest draw in the sport.
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well said. Couldn't agree more.

Babality, great pic, but you're still a nutt huggin homo. I've seen plenty of pac fans agree that pac should take the drug test. If I was offered a job with a salary of 50 million, and all that was required was a blood drug test.....

band wagon boxing fans who think roach/pac meet the hype should go check out the UFC.. or better yet, the WWE. Your BS non-sensical logic will go much further there.

Pac/roach are like the .com, banking, and housing markets. Overrated, over inflated, and not a lot of substance. THE BUBBLE WILL BURST!

Lance_Uppercut · Dec 28, 2009

sbak said: ↑

well said. Couldn't agree more.

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Add Sbak to the list of new ******s to the site. Welcome to ESB ****head....:roll:

Lance_Uppercut · Dec 28, 2009

aaron said: ↑

You just made my day. Cheers :good
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And another....

HyperBone · Dec 29, 2009

rauer said: ↑

Pacq and Roach are clearly the worst thing to happen to boxing the past decade.

Pacq is one of the most overrated and underwhelming fighters in recent memory. This is hurting boxing as many casual boxing fans are now believing that Manny has talent and/or skills. People are listening to media reports that have little to no knowlege of actual boxing. Manny ain't that great. His lack of head movement, his jumping in style, and poor defense are exciting to watch- but lack any real skill.

Roach has recently become very outspoken with the advent of 24/7. Freddy now opens his mouth any chance he gets and he hurts his own fighters with his excuses. He claimed Cotto wasnt the same fighter, he said DLH was drained, Hatton was never any good, etc- all reducing Manny's chances at becoming and developing into a special fighter someday. More importantly, Roach has been linked to way too many steroid fighters in the past- just check his resume. With the latest Pacq controversy- this is just the same old thing from the Wild Card gym. Drugs and Roach riding the coattales of his fighter(s).
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.....AND ZAB JUDAH IS THE NUMBER 2 BOXER IN YOUR OPINION.

DIE *****!:smoke

rushman · Dec 29, 2009

Lance_Uppercut said: ↑

Add Sbak to the list of new ******s to the site. Welcome to ESB ****head....:roll:
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What is the deal with noobies coming out of the woodwork to troll up ESB?

brod78 · Dec 29, 2009

Rauer is the worst thing to happen to ESB.

zerocool1523 · Dec 29, 2009

:**** nallege

Pimp C · Dec 29, 2009

Jaguar said: ↑

Pacquiao has brought a lot of casual fans to the sport, and with them a considerable amount of money. In that respect, he is good for the sport of boxing. However I agree that Pacq is bad for the sweet science. People do not appreciate what a true boxer is, nor do they understand the skills necessary to be a complete fighter. It's sad that what most of today's fans know about boxing they learned by watching Pacq attack washed up and drained fighters with that straight ahead no defense style. Pacquiao makes boxing look like a tough man competition, and sadly enough that's what people want and are paying to see.

The general consensus is that someone like Manny is a better boxer than someone like Mosley or Mayweather simply because the fan boys have jumped on his back or swing from his nuts. Pacq will be exposed as the charlatan he is, and then boxing will lose a lot of popularity.

Manny Pacquiao is to boxing what Chuck Lidell is/was to MMA. He is what Shaq is to basketball, what enforcers are to hockey, and what Bret "Mr. Interception" Favre is to football. He is limited yet effective, and the biggest draw in the sport.
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Excellent post!

Gneus7 · Dec 29, 2009

rauer said: ↑

Pacq and Roach are clearly the worst thing to happen to boxing the past decade.

Pacq is one of the most overrated and underwhelming fighters in recent memory. This is hurting boxing as many casual boxing fans are now believing that Manny has talent and/or skills. People are listening to media reports that have little to no knowlege of actual boxing. Manny ain't that great. His lack of head movement, his jumping in style, and poor defense are exciting to watch- but lack any real skill.

Roach has recently become very outspoken with the advent of 24/7. Freddy now opens his mouth any chance he gets and he hurts his own fighters with his excuses. He claimed Cotto wasnt the same fighter, he said DLH was drained, Hatton was never any good, etc- all reducing Manny's chances at becoming and developing into a special fighter someday. More importantly, Roach has been linked to way too many steroid fighters in the past- just check his resume. With the latest Pacq controversy- this is just the same old thing from the Wild Card gym. Drugs and Roach riding the coattales of his fighter(s).
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Shut up Floyd.

Untouchable Man · Dec 29, 2009

Fredidie Roach is notorious for having fighters in his stable that use Roids.

Curtis Lowe · Dec 29, 2009

rauer said: ↑

Pacq and Roach are clearly the worst thing to happen to boxing the past decade.

Pacq is one of the most overrated and underwhelming fighters in recent memory. This is hurting boxing as many casual boxing fans are now believing that Manny has talent and/or skills. People are listening to media reports that have little to no knowlege of actual boxing. Manny ain't that great. His lack of head movement, his jumping in style, and poor defense are exciting to watch- but lack any real skill.

Roach has recently become very outspoken with the advent of 24/7. Freddy now opens his mouth any chance he gets and he hurts his own fighters with his excuses. He claimed Cotto wasnt the same fighter, he said DLH was drained, Hatton was never any good, etc- all reducing Manny's chances at becoming and developing into a special fighter someday. More importantly, Roach has been linked to way too many steroid fighters in the past- just check his resume. With the latest Pacq controversy- this is just the same old thing from the Wild Card gym. Drugs and Roach riding the coattales of his fighter(s).
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Pretty amazing post, just by sheer stupidity. Do yourself and ESB readers a favor and go back to Facebook and play Farmville or whatever that is and stay off this site.

rauer · Dec 29, 2009

Jaguar said: ↑

Pacquiao has brought a lot of casual fans to the sport, and with them a considerable amount of money. In that respect, he is good for the sport of boxing. However I agree that Pacq is bad for the sweet science. People do not appreciate what a true boxer is, nor do they understand the skills necessary to be a complete fighter. It's sad that what most of today's fans know about boxing they learned by watching Pacq attack washed up and drained fighters with that straight ahead no defense style. Pacquiao makes boxing look like a tough man competition, and sadly enough that's what people want and are paying to see.

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great post. Pacq needs to improve his skills. He is a fad right now as was Winky Wright.
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rodney · Dec 29, 2009

socalep3 said: ↑

i think you mean floyd cherrypickins mayweather lol.
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No -- I'm talkin about a JUICER and a CHEAT>

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