When belief is'nt enough:The blood testing saga

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dharm, Dec 31, 2009.


  1. Dharm

    Dharm New Member Full Member

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    I'm a fan of Manny Pacquiao.

    I love both his fierceness and warrior nature within the ring and the effortlesnness with which he seems to carry the hopes and dreams of an entire nation on his shoulders.For many people,he is a symbol of hope.A bright light in the darkness.

    I admire Floyd Mayweather's ability within the ring.I'm not a fan of his but respect his boxing mastery.

    The recent events regarding the blood testing issue,have made me face up to some "uncomfortable" issues.

    My preference of Manny Pacquiao over Floyd Mayweather,makes me want to side with Manny on this.To defend him,whilst attacking the Mayweathers and GBP's.

    However,my instinct,my intuition is telling me something else.

    My intuition is telling me that Manny is hiding something.

    As much as I like Manny and admire and respect him for what he has accomplished,as much as I hate to admit it,as much as I would like to see the Mayweathers,Oscar and GBP have their noses rubbed in it,I sense something darker is lurking under the surface of all of this.

    My mind is telling me one thing,my intuition another.My mind is trying to push aside those uncomfortable feelings as they arise,pretending that everything is ok but still,something just does'nt feel right.

    Thus far,my intuition has never been wrong.
     
  2. grimlocked

    grimlocked Active Member Full Member

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    Try reading the transcript of this interview in 2005, maybe you'll understand why Pac doesn't want the blood test so close to the fight.

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    Translation from youtube:

    Interviewer: ...now this blood test they're talking about. This is what I don't understand. Why do you have to take a blood test 2 days before the fight? Then here in Manila, news have spread that the fight may not happen, because the Nevada Commission insisted that these tests must be submitted or else they would not grant a permit or recognize this fight. So what happened?

    Pacman: Well this is what happened. So 1 month before the fight, they rushed me to undergo a medical exam which the Nevada Athletic Commission (NSAC) had required. Since this was needed by the NSAC, I needed to undergo a medical exam to fulfill this requirement. So I underwent a medical exam 1 month before the fight. Everything was completed...

    Interviewer: Even the blood test?

    Pacman: .. Yes even the blood test. So when everything was said and done, I resumed back to my training. So here I was...reducing for tomorrow's weigh-in and 2 days before the fight. Since I have to weigh-in tomorrow, I have been reducing...I didn't drink, I didn't hydrate...so I can meet the weight. On that day, NSAC called and required me to submit a blood test for my medical. I told them that I have completed this test already. My camp reacted, Freddie Roach and my manager. NSAC informed us that the doctor lost my medical records.

    Interviewer: They lost it!?

    Pacman: They lost it. They lost my medical records.

    Interviewer: Ok. So first and foremost, whose fault is it? Is it the hospital? Your manager or maybe one of your team members since they didn't follow up or verified that this has been submitted?

    Pacman: It's puzzling. Why would NSAC not have copies of my medical records when they even rushed me in getting this done 1 month into the fight...and why 2 days into the fight for me to re-submit one?

    Interviewer: So word got here in the Philippines that your team have been pointing fingers and putting blame on each other...

    Pacman: Well you know..I spoke to a doctor at another hospital and told me that it's impossible to have my medical records completely lost because those records would have also been stored in a computer.

    Interview: So you didn't further investigate as to who was at fault for this? Or was it imbedded that the hospital, in general was at fault?

    Pacman: Well for sure the hospital was at fault but we didn't have the time to investigate further...it was 2 days into the fight. But you know that I had my doubts about this..

    Interviewer: ...that it's one of the tactics?

    Pacman: Yes. It's one of their tactics...but did you know when I had my blood drawn that day...30 min later I felt dizzy and felt some pain at the back of my neck. I was instructed after getting my blood drawn to re-hydrate. But you know I can't hydrate!? You know I can't eat!? [because of the weigh-in]. So what I did instead was I lay down and had my neck massaged.

    Interviewer: So by fight time, did you really felt that you were weak?

    Pacman: For sure I did. Those punches that were landing on Morales...it came into my mind that if this is all the power I can deliver...I won't be able to KO him out.

    Interviewer: Well you know that when they interviewed Morales after the fight, he said that he didn't even feel the sting of your punches..

    Pacman: Well I like it that way because he doesn't have a clue that those punches were not packed

    Interviewer: So you'll let him feel the sting for this next fight then...(laughing)[end]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOFXsVAT8_0[/ame]
     
  3. peter37

    peter37 New Member Full Member

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    Is Everybody serious? How can people think pacquiao is a cheat. Look what mayweather is asking for it's never been done in boxing before. Why would manny have to take the test just because mayweather wants to change the rules of boxing. Stop and look who's the fighter that has giving us great fights.never duckin anybody,now we suppost to turn our backs on him over a fighter that's a coward that has no respect for boxing a fighter even thou boxing feeds his family.he's a piece of **** .PAC should retire he don't need to prove nothing.iam a fan of any fighter that puts his heart in a fight .PAC stay in the philliphines you don't need to entertain us stupid Americans that don't appreciate your hard work.
     
  4. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny first excuse for losing this fight was glove he and Roach personally blamed Pac first promoter Murad Muhammad for failing to get the glove pac wanted which were Reyes Gloves as a result Pac old promoter was fired and Arum was hired .

    when will they just come out and for real what the issue is.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    whats with the rash of noobies claiming to be pac fans and then casting doubts on his integrity ala floyd sr? stop talking out the side of your mouth.
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    manny should step up and take the drug tests....he is clean he says so he will have nothing to worry about..

    the procedure takes about 4 minutes total and he will get a lollipop at the end
     
  7. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And a spongebob sticker for the crybaby