George Foreman vs. Tony Tubbs

Tyson actually has something called defense, well rounded skills, and accuracy with his punches unlike Big George.

 

I don't think you should answer him or pay any attention to him.

 

All joking asside, I think that there were various renditions of Foreman that Tubbs may have stollen a decision against, but only on the worst nights of George's career. I would pick a prime Tubbs to beat the Foreman who lost to Jimmy Young in 1977. I would likely pick him to beat George on the night that he was outboxed by guys like Shultz and Morrison. I would otherwise pick the Foreman who beat Frazier, Norton, Moorer, and went the distance with Holyfield to destroy him.

 

Tubbs' lack of conditioning and strength would hurt him here.George by sixth round kayo.

 

Tubbs was good, but he was no Ali or Young and would have suffered the inevitable ko.

 

...no, it's because Foreman has a ton of 2nd round KOs. Check it out if you don't believe me.

 

12 third round KOs... 19 second round KOs... 15 first round KOs

46 of his 81 fights didn't go past the 3rd round!

It has nothing to do with Tyson. Foreman would have stopped Tyson in 4 or 5 rounds IMO.

Tubbs at his very best might have seen the 3rd round... but I doubt it.

 

Tubbs was a very good fighter with suprisingly quick hands and feet, much quicker than George. Still think Foreman in his prime would be able to do enough with his jab pressure and righthand to beat Tubbs over 12 rounds. Tubbs fought a stupid fight against Tyson. He had some success from the outside early but then tried to mix it up with Tyson in close and got the worse end of the exchanges.

 

Tubbs had the skill to evade a prime Foreman for a few rounds only. Only Ali and Young had the skill and savvy to capitalise on George's weaknesses enought to actually win. In fact it could be argued that even though Foreman was still in his twenties,he was n't in his prime by the time Jimmy got to him.

 

My everlasting thought about Tubbs is: How the **** do you go in against Tyson so far out of shape?
My feeling is that IF Tubbs was able to avoid getting stopped that it would come down to desire and just about any version of Foreman had more of it. Yeah, I guess if you throw Tubbs in instead of Jimmy Young maybe there's a chance.

 

I thought the whole thing was overplayed. Theres a good youtube video on the whole prefight scenario. Tubbs had a conditioning coach and he was over the contracted weight, but I dont think he was poorly trained against Tyson, he was just one of those guys with bad genetics. He certainly looked better than a guy like Brian Nielson or Buster Mathis who literally had sloppy rolls of fat. Tubbs was round but he was tight.

 

I trust what my eyes see, but I do respect your opinion.

 

Here it is. They say he had been working with Lou Feriggno before the fight. Who knows either way, he looked pretty quick, just fought kind of a stupid fight. One and half rounds you could hardly tell it was from poor conditioning.

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I checked out when the clip started with Robin Givens. Just kidding. I'd never heard the Lou Ferrigno part. That's interesting. Good clip.

 

You have to take into account that Tony only had about 2 weeks to train for the Tyson fight. This fight was originally supposed to be Tyson-Witherspoon. Tubbs stepped in as a replacement in return he was let out of his contract with Don King who had just been keeping him on the shelf. THe so called contracted $50,000 to come in under 235 lbs weight agreement was not even made known to Tubbs. It was brought up between Don King and his trainer and this was never made known to Tubbs. When Tubbs founbd out of the deal behind his back he made sure his trainer was not going to get the $50,000 and thus came in at 238. The 3 pound difference made no difference on Tubbs frame. Tubbs could fight the same at 255 lbs as he could at 225 lbs. He was just a naturally fast handed big man.