If Jones retired after blanking Ruiz, where would he rank all-time?

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whatta your thoughts?
     
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    i think the best thing he could have done was retire after ruiz and do comentary for hbo.
     
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    He never blanked him. Ruiz won like 2-3 rounds!
     
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  4. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nitpicking, N -- totally one-sided. A BRILLIANT performance.
     
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    He would have been ranked in the TOP 10 possibly TOP 5 fighters of all time. Based on the weight RANGE of his title belts..
     
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    i mean in all honestly its ****ing ruiz.
     
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  7. guncho

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    higher i think
     
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    top 5
     
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  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your dismissal of Ruiz is interesting, on reflection, D. Shot a video in L.A 'n Vegas leading up to the fight. Many fans interviewed thought pretty much as you do, but a goodly share of SAVVY BOXING INSIDERS thought Ruiz would be just too big, too strong 'n hit too hard for Roy.

    Take a look: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_HOWlGD6o[/ame]

    Hindsight's always 20/20
     
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  11. EleventhHour

    EleventhHour Got Dat Black & Gold Soul Full Member

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    Agreed, JG. I remember a lot of experts saying RJJ had bitten off more than he could chew. I think if he'd retired after this he would be top 15 or even top 10 of all time. I still have him top 25, but every fight he sticks around for is just sad.
     
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    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What was Roy lacking to crack your top 10, E?
     
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    EleventhHour Got Dat Black & Gold Soul Full Member

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    If he'd retired after Ruiz he falls about 10 or 11, in my list, but I would have liked to have seen RJJ fight better opposition at LHW (namely Dariusz Michalczewski and fewer Richard Fraziers). I also would have liked to have seen him defend his heavyweight title at least once against another big-name heavyweight to prove that the Ruiz fight wasn't a fluke. THEN he would easily have been top 10.

    Still, prime-RJJ is easily in my top 5 favorite fighters of all time.
     
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  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I don't dismiss roy, I think most fans still give him props for his prime.
    He is in the top 50 if you ask me.
     
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  15. john garfield

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    Is he no higher for the same reasons Eleventh Hour expressed, L?
     
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