3 blood tests and 60 urine tests aren't enough....

Above and beyond what was required by the NSAC...Yes. Above and beyond what was required to make this fight...No.

My feeling is that he never should have entertained the idea if he was so adamantly against it in the first place. He could have just told Floyd to **** himself if he thought it was a ridiculous idea. Instead he came out and said that he was worried about blood being taken in the last couple days leading up to the fight, and then Roach said five days would be fine. Now they're all of a sudden stuck on 24 days? Why are they dangling these concessions in front of everybody's face and then taking them away? Meanwhile Floyd, surprisingly, has come off his demand that the USADA handle the tests and agreed to a reasonable cutoff date for the blood. He takes a step forward, Manny's team takes a step back. WTF?

A 14 day cutoff would leave far more than enough time for him not to worry about any lasting "weakening" effects from the blood tests, so he no longer has that excuse, and again, if he thinks they're being totally unreasonable now (after concessions were clearly made) then why in the **** didn't he just say so in the beginning (when it was USADA & random blood all the way up until the fight) instead of making the excuse. He acted like he really wanted to make the fight, and was fine with more stringent testing, but was just worried about the last minute blood. Now, after Floyd has made an effort to meet in the middle, he's taking back everything he and his team have offered publicly and taking the 'this is bull**** that they would even want additional testing' stance, which I would probably have been able to understand if he had just said that from the beginning, but not after they've already made progress.

 

The funny thing is, I believe Pacquiao would accept 14 days. Roach said nothing under 5 and Pacquiao will follow what he says. I think this has turned into a personal thing with Arum and Floyd now, considering they hate each other. Arum won't back down and is acting petulant.

Honestly, the blame is on Floyd and Arum right now.

 

They are all to blame, too many egos, not enough grown-up adults.

 

As it stands, Floyds camp are talking about trying to get the fight together.

Arum is talking about a fight with Clottey.

Theres only side who seem like they are trying to make the fight happen. Hopefully Pac and Roach can tell Arum to take a running jump and we can finally get Floyd v Pac signed.

 

Agreed. Arum clearly doesn't give a **** about this fight, and why should he when he's got a nice double ended payday coming up in Pacquiao/Clottey? The one thing you can count on with Uncle Bob is that he always manages to get paid.

 

Pac is a *****, scared of a blood test

 

Arum is not going to walk away from what possibly could be the richest fight in boxing history over ego......

....days back before they brought in a mediator, Shaefer made an offer of a 10 day window of non testing, in which Arum said he would take to Pacquiao.
Arum at this point was actually optimistic something could be worked out because Mayweather was at the time was'nt budging from testing to the day before the fight.
.........Arum took the offer to Pacquiao but Pacquiao turned it down.

Go over to B.....confidential, and there is a good read there with the opinions of former manager and promoter Butch Lewis, who once worked with Arum......
......knowing Arum, he's convinced that its Pacquiao and not Arum who's behind not wanting the blood testing, and thus holding up the fight.

 

pac is afraid, fraud has loaded gloves..

 

I think Void should have to prove that he has a set of balls.

 

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Fail

 

Hey ellerbe, dinner is served, ha ha.

 

10 million over the weight limit penalty Vs Random testing???? which one of these option can any of you boys afford???

Excuses me I can **** all ****ing day long, because I do that any ****ing way but I sure as **** can **** 10 million dollars into a ****ing cup now can I !?! Get the **** Outta here.. The mother ****er is pissing all ****ing day long during training any way, what difference does it make if he pisses in the bushes or in a ****ing cup, it no ****ing big deal...

 

Caitlin is far out of the loop. WADA has had a Micera urine test since June 2008. Ricardo Ricco was the first to fall prey to this test by the AFLD.

 

EPO doesn't increase your weight, it's for stamina.

From the same person in regards to EPO use.

http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php

Question:
2) I've heard a lot about using both a blood and urine test to detect EPO use. Doesn't an athlete have to test positive for EPO on both the blood and urine test to be considered a doper?

No.

Blood testing has received a lot of attention because it is a new concept in the drug testing world. There is a blood test for EPO use, but it is only an indirect test that can be used as a screening measure to save money by determining whether the urine EPO test needs to be conducted. All the blood test does is tell the testers that the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation. The abnormal profile could be caused by the use of EPO, some other blood boosting drug, or just be explained by the athlete being a genetic freak or living at altitude. The testers then perform the urine EPO test to determine whether artificial EPO is the cause of the abnormality.

The blood test does not have to be done in order for the athlete to test positive for EPO.


From WADA itself.

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources...EPO-Detection/


When was a test to detect EPO implemented?

A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.

In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO,

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This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.