Do you believe in Evander Holyfield??

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  1. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do:deal


    Holyfield TKO11 Sultan:good
     
  2. jazzysoul06

    jazzysoul06 Byrd Gang, Bitch Full Member

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    Why I Feel Holyfield has a chance to win this weekend.

    When people hear that Holyfield is fighting for a title this weekend, several things typically come to mind in most.

    1. He's too old at 44 years old (45 next week).
    2. Who has he fought to deserve a title shot?
    3. Wasn't he banned from fighting because he was so terrible a few years back?
    4. Listen to him talk, he shouldn't be fighting.

    However all of those are, while seemingly logical at face value, inherently flawed.

    First of all, the fact that he's 44 is irrelevant. George Foreman defeated Michael Moorer for a belt years back when he was already 45, and a lot of people would argue that Moorer was a helluva lot better than Sultan Ibragimov.

    Secondly, he hasn't fought anyone? That's more an indictment of the heavyweight division competition than Holyfield. He's fought who has been put in front of him, and he's stepped in when the original opponent dropped out. It's not Holyfield's fault that the only legitimately decent opponents were already fighting people.

    Thirdly, he was banned because he went through a losing streak and got outfought by Larry Donald several years ago. This was because Holyfield had a shoulder injury that he never let heal He kept fighting because he realized he was getting older, and as he kept fighting, the shoulder kept getting worse culminating in the Donald fiasco. So he was off for two years, the shoulder is completely healed, and if you've seen any of his comeback fights, you'd notice that his skills are back. He's not as fast as he used to be, but he's able to fight again. The Shoulder injury threw off his reflexes and speed.

    Now that he's 100% he's able to fight again and there's no issues.

    As for his slurred speech, and whatnot, he's passed all the tests he's been given.

    As for the fight, he's not fighting Wladimir Klitschko here. He's fighting Sultan Ibragimov, who while a decent fighter, is not the type of fighter you have to really worry about. His power is alright, nothing spectacular, his boxing skills are admirable but once again, not anything amazing. If anything, out of the belt holders, I feel Holyfield's best chances would have been against Ruslan Chagaev or Ibragimov. I don't think he defeats Wlad, who is just too big and too strong for him, and I'm not sure how he would face against Samuel Peter either, who I think may be a bit too strong for him, although his endurance leave something to be desired.

    Bottom line is this. I absolutely think Holyfield can go to Russia and win the belt. There's always the chance that the American Fighter will get screwed over in the judging, which has happened numerous times in Russia and Germany (which is why a lot of US fighters won't go there), but I think that not only does Holyfield have a shot at winning, I don't think that Ibragimov has the power to hurt him very bad.
     
  3. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not sure if he wins. :-(

    i don't think much of ibragimov though. :bart

    and knowing holyfield's career u never can write the man off too easy. :yep
     
  4. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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    may i ask why u have a pic of vitali naked please tell me an avatar bet

    yes i do believe in the real deal by ud
     
  5. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Hey **** that!

    At least Ibragimov had intentions of fighting Chagaev. Holyfield wants his first defense to be ****ing Golota!

    NO NO NO!

    Ibragimov TKO 6 Holyfield!
     
  6. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    :happy

    Looks like no avatar bet for us this time around!!!
     
  7. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    Think Drago vs. Creed.
     
  8. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent Post, my good man:good
     
  9. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I know Ivan Drago....and Sultan Ibragimov AINT no Ivan Drago....
     
  10. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    I always give someone a chance for revenge though, which is why I am sporting my current avatar (DAMN YOU, MAB!!!).

    What are your picks for some up coming fights???
     
  11. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was gonna say the same ****ing thing. Drago would never be dropped by Ray Austin.:-(
     
  12. jazzysoul06

    jazzysoul06 Byrd Gang, Bitch Full Member

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    oh by the way, speaking of Drago, anyone ever watch Rocky 4 and think, "man, they're drug testing at the end of fights must REALLY be **** poor over in Russia"?

    lol
     
  13. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They were injecting him with stuff during training, they actually showed it.:deal
     
  14. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    And I know Creed, and Holyfield ain't no Apollo Creed.
     
  15. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    :lol:

    Off the top of my head....

    Holyfield by late KO or UD.
    Calzaghe by WIDE UD.
    Mormeck by late TKO.
    Mosely by early KO.
    Floyd by WIDE UD.
    Diaz by UD........Juan that is.....:D
    JMM by UD.
    Byrd by close UD.