A question for everyone that I asked in a different thread...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WiDDoW_MaKeR, Jan 14, 2010.


  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Amazing growth isn't it.:rofl
     
  2. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So basically, the only reason he didn't want to take the test was to spite Floyd, so he wouldn't lose some mystical mental edge...


    That argument is ****ing OLD!


    Find something else.
     
  3. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They really don't...
     
  4. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    These *****s are such hypocrites, they like to say Pac juiced himself to make him get as big as he is now, but when comparing accomplishments Pac winning a title at Flyweight to Welterweight in the pros is the equivalent or lesser of RJJ winning a junior lightweight amateur championship to winning a heavyweight title in the pros.
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Do you have severe reading comprehension problems?:think Why do you keep saying that Pac refused to take the test... or didn't want to take the test??? HE WAS WILLING TO TAKE 3 ****ING BLOOD TESTS AND **** TESTS EVERY DAY... AS WELL AS GIVE HAIR SAMPLES!!!!!!! If that isn't enough, then they should just ****ing put a halt to the entire sport of boxing. At least Floyd Mayweather should retire because he obviously should never feel "safe" enough to fight again. I guess the real boxers who simply get into the ring and fight their opponent can continue doing what they love to do and we love to watch. Floyd in the meantime, can join the Olympic testing committee and solve the world's PED problems. Maybe even tour city to city educating the youth on PED's, proper testing, and the dangers of boxing opponents who are only willing to give over 60 drug tests including urine, blood, and hair within a 2 month span.
     
  6. dodong

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    Where are you getting the news that Pacquiao does not want to get tested?

    1. Manny was tested after the Cotto fight, Nov. 14.

    2. With press all around, Pac gave a urine sample under NSAC on Dec. 31, sample analyzed at a WADA approved site.

    3. Would have blood and urine sample taken at kickoff press con this Jan.

    4. **** test everyday, all the way through.

    5. 1 random blood test up to 24 days of the fight.

    6. Blood test right after the fight.

    For you, what can Pacquiao take where any PED can't be detected?

    Floyd was also reassured by scientist at the mediation meeting that use of PED by Pac will be detected.
     
  7. grimlocked

    grimlocked Active Member Full Member

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    Pac definitely got ripped off for the amount of money he paid for those Human GROWTH Hormone stuff if he only ganied a little over 1 pound every year since 2006 :D.
     
  8. 4life

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    GIVE UP BRO!!!

    They'll never get it.


    Nowadays, hardwork and dedication does not get rewarded!!! For every fan you make, 2 more haters will enter the picture.

    It's much easier to act like you like someone(pac), when you really hate him for beating fighters you have a very high admiration for, then go on to bash him whenever an issue come up claiming you used to like but not anymore....RATHER THAN SAYING YOU HATE THE GUY!!

    C'MON HATERS SAY IT, ITS OK!!

    I HATE MANNY PACQUIAO!!
     
  9. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Yes, it was Oscar's stupidity. So what? It doesn't change the fact that Oscar was drained beyond any healthy measure and had nothing to offer in the ring that night. The win tells us nothing.

    2. The Cotto fight was at 145lbs, not the Welterweight limit. What Cotto said or didn't say doesn't change that, as much as I like Cotto.

    3. No, your post does not "still stand".
     
  10. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacquiao has never been caught under the current methods, true. However, it has been shown that the current methods CAN'T catch someone effectively using certain types of performance enhancing drugs. Is Pacquiao cheating? I do not know and I hope not.

    The bottom line is that Pacquiao is refusing to be tested under stricter guidelines. That raises a red flag.

    As for your, "this isn't the amateurs" remark, I fully agree. This is the professional ranks where things like drug testing should be taken at least as seriously, if not more so.
     
  11. papolamuerte

    papolamuerte Yo soy La Muerte! Full Member

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    If that is not sufficient evidence that Pac is taking roids, I dont know what else to say!

    UliUli you got your proof right there bro....:good
     
  12. Riveraboxing

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    My post does stand... Drained beyond any healthy measure? Says who? Are you the doctor that checked Oscar the night of the fight? Apparently he was healthy enough to pass the pre-fight physical.. As for Cotto, weight has nothing to do with it. He fought the previous fight 1 lb heavier and stated that it didn't effect him? Did Cotto lie or do you know his body better than he does?
     
  13. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. I actually have no problem with Pacquiao doing well as he moves up and doing it in good fashion. My problem is the fact that his team's reason for not wanting the testing has bobbled back and forth unceasingly since all of this started and the fact that he refuses to be tested in a way that would ensure as fair a fight as possible.
     
  14. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. No.

    2. It is a known fact that Oscar was not healthy at that weight. They had him on an IV because his body was so depleted. Roach used to train Oscar and made a point of it himself, that Oscar would have nothing after three rounds or so. If you don't know this, you haven't followed the situation and should do your homework.

    3. The Cotto fight was not at the Welterweight limit whether you like it or not. If weight had nothing to do with anything, there should never have been a catchweight to begin with. That's all. In terms of the fight I would still expect Pacquiao to win if it was at 147lbs, but the fact is that it WAS NOT at 147lbs. Do you understand?
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    But you are fine with the fact that they couldn't put on a major event in Cowboys Stadium because Floyd uses substances to numb his hands that are illegal in the state of Texas. Fairest fight possible... right.