Barrera's top 5 Mexican fighters of all time.

If you can that would be an intresting post,seems some dont think there was a dislike but i remember them not liking eachother im assuming there is no love lost between the 2 to this day.

 

Calling someone an indian isnt to racist since most Mexicans have a lot of Indian blood, But calling one a Chuntarro is considered an insult Which is what Barrera called Morales. The feeling was that Barrera looked at Morales as Lower Class and Morales looked at Barrera as a snob. This escalated with the rivalry.

 

Here it is anarci, look that it might look racist between the same mexican people here in this country but it is like this...this is what i posted some time ago...

I am mexican an i live here in Mexico, let me tell you how i see the story here...

Casual fans have respect for both they like MAB but they like more EM(because of style, etc), people who dont follow boxing might not even know they hate each other so they like both, boxing fans like both but they prefer EM because of style also, some prefer MAB because he is from Mexico City but they dont hate EM, they also love to watch him fight and cheer for him... And now, HARDCORE FANS, prefer EM some of them even hate Barrera because of dirty tactics etc but this is the real reason a mexican hardcore fan prefer Eric... Believe me or not it is because of JCC-ODLH, a briefly introduce, Mexico is kind of divided in 2 very different kind of people, the north(starting from Sinaloa, Chihuahua, Durango, all the way to Tijuana) and the south (considered from Nayarit and below), people from the north dont like south people, they considered them stupid, midgits, stealers, and they considered most of them not friendly who always try to take advantage of people(wich is true, i have lived in both parts), people from the south is not that they dont like north people but they considered them agressive(because of the accent it looks like they are mad), mafia wiseguys, killers, drugdealers, etc so they are kind of afraid to them), so having this said JCC is from the north and he is the LEGEND so everybody loves him, well the problem starts here, JCC is close friend from EM as well as Jorge Arce and other fighters, when JCC lost to ODLH all Mexico turned to hate ODLH, plain and simple and then MAB started making business with the Golden Boy then most of the Hardcore fans turned in favor of JCC as well as EM, Arce, Margarito, etc, Montiel family went with MAB side so thats the reason Arce and Montiel dont like each other(both from Los Mochis), in each opportunity both have they talk **** about each other, Arce also talks **** about ODLH, so based on personalities JCC, Arce and EM are more friendly to people than MAB so thats why the hate for MAB adding he is from Mexico city, and people hating on MAB is like hating on ODLH and the same time supporting the EM and the north group...Just to add, north people dont hate south fighters, just MAB because of what i just explained, they have lots of respect for Finito, JMM, etc...

 

Here it is anarci, look that it might look racist between the same mexican people here in this country but it is like this...this is what i posted some time ago...

I am mexican an i live here in Mexico, let me tell you how i see the story here...

Casual fans have respect for both they like MAB but they like more EM(because of style, etc), people who dont follow boxing might not even know they hate each other so they like both, boxing fans like both but they prefer EM because of style also, some prefer MAB because he is from Mexico City but they dont hate EM, they also love to watch him fight and cheer for him... And now, HARDCORE FANS, prefer EM some of them even hate Barrera because of dirty tactics etc but this is the real reason a mexican hardcore fan prefer Eric... Believe me or not it is because of JCC-ODLH, a briefly introduce, Mexico is kind of divided in 2 very different kind of people, the north(starting from Sinaloa, Chihuahua, Durango, all the way to Tijuana) and the south (considered from Nayarit and below), people from the north dont like south people, they considered them stupid, midgits, stealers, and they considered most of them not friendly who always try to take advantage of people(wich is true, i have lived in both parts), people from the south is not that they dont like north people but they considered them agressive(because of the accent it looks like they are mad), mafia wiseguys, killers, drugdealers, etc so they are kind of afraid to them), so having this said JCC is from the north and he is the LEGEND so everybody loves him, well the problem starts here, JCC is close friend from EM as well as Jorge Arce and other fighters, when JCC lost to ODLH all Mexico turned to hate ODLH, plain and simple and then MAB started making business with the Golden Boy then most of the Hardcore fans turned in favor of JCC as well as EM, Arce, Margarito, etc, Montiel family went with MAB side so thats the reason Arce and Montiel dont like each other(both from Los Mochis), in each opportunity both have they talk **** about each other, Arce also talks **** about ODLH, so based on personalities JCC, Arce and EM are more friendly to people than MAB so thats why the hate for MAB adding he is from Mexico city, and people hating on MAB is like hating on ODLH and the same time supporting the EM and the north group...Just to add, north people dont hate south fighters, just MAB because of what i just explained, they have lots of respect for Finito, JMM, etc...

 

Good info :good Ive heard some of that before but not in detail like you explained.
I know what you are talking about with Oscar. Im Mexican/american and i see the dislike for Oscar by even people from his hometown(im from LA area), especially the Mexican Nationals. Id say even 1/2 of the Mex/americans dont like him never understood it, i got a few Oscar haters in my family, including my son:yep I happen to be a big fan and never understood it. I know lot of Mexicanos dont like him cause he beat there idol and his image doesnt sit well.

I think Oscar is more popular with Non Mexican fans than he is to even his own people(not counting the women) all my female family likes him:yep

 

Yeah i know what you mean, personally when he beat jcc i hated him for years and actually when i watched the tito-odlh fight i was rooting for tito but even i was rooting for tito i felt tito clearly lost the fight before the final announcement and after they said tito was the winner you really should had been in the place where i watched the fight, there were like 1000 people in the place(it was in mexico) and seriously all of them were rooting for tito..it was like a party everybody celebrating that oscar lost(including me) and after some time i started to appreciatte oscar and i turned into his fan, i think he did a lot for this sport, he tried to fight the best even he didnt win always he got mexican balls and nobody can denied that i like oscar now but here in mexico still 99% of the people hate him...lol...

 

Yes but not all Mexicans have Indian blood, Barrera doesnt, thats what he was meaning, as if Morales is lower than him because he has Indian blood & MAB doesnt.

 

atsch Dude Barrera obviously has Indian blood in him. I find it kind a little irritating when someone from the other side of the World is trying to tell me about my culture. About 85% of Mexico is Mestizo which is a mixture of Spanish/Indian blood. There are some Pure looking Spaniards in Mexico but they are the minority,and Barrera is not a pure Spaniard.

How many Mexicans reside in your Community:huh

Morales obviously has more indian features thats what Barrera is talking about,hes also from a Poor background thats what Barrera is making referance too.
You probably have never even heard the meaning of a Chuntarro until I explained earlier right?

 

Most people from the north part of Mexico can't stand "chilangos" meaning people from Mexico City, since tthey feel that most chilangos think they're above everyone. Morales even said "Voy hacerle un favor a la patria, matando un chilango" Im going to do my country a favor and kill a chilango. Another thing i also notice about some people prefering MAB over Terrible is that Marco comes from a middle class background as Erik comes from a poor background. Most mexicans prefer the fighters from the poor more rugged backgrounds. Which ever way you look at it, the Barrera-Morales rivalry is my favorite boxing rivalry of all time, and its Mexicos greatest rivalry in this sport.

 

You might be right because my dislike for Barrera began when he started working with Oscar De La Panties.

 

Your right on all accounts, I only mentioned something that I read back around the time of their 2nd fight, probably picked it up a little wrong but they did make a big deal about the `Indian` thing.

Anyway, no Mexicans, Indians or even `Chuntarro`s were I live so lets move on.

 

True i went to the FIRST Morales/Barrera fight me and my friends were kind of split(i was going for Barrera Since i had seen most of his fights at the forum and followed him on the way up). However majority of the Crowd(mostly Mexican) was going for Morales id say his fans outnumbered Barreras about 2to 1.

 

I agree with Sanchez being at the top. The man was just amazing to watch, very graceful, and his punches so quick and crisp. Chavez has the longevity but there's no doubt in my mind that Sanchez would have upstaged him. Damn, he left behind a great fight legacy in the short time he was with us. I watch Chavez fights for a good scrap, I watch Sanchez fights when I want to see something beautiful.

 

Can we all agree that Salvador Sanchez was the most complete mexican fighter theres ever been?