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In 55 fights has Manny Pacquiao ever asked anyone to pay 10 million per Lb over?

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Lance_Uppercut said: ↑

Floyd showed in his last fight he had no intention of making the agreed upon weight limit. Had there been none of the bull****, Pac would very likely have never asked.

The rest of your post is pretty much useless, no offense.
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well he asked de la hoya for a 3mil penalty and i dont think he has over come in heavy, now what that means i dont know haha

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Pacquiao's reasoning is as week as mayweather's for reasoning that Pacquiao uses PEDs. Mayweather couldn't make 144 that is 3 Lbs less than 147. Mayweather has weighed 147 or more in only 3 of his 40 bouts. The one in which he weighed more was a bout with a 154 Lbs limit. Pacquiao's reasoning is week at best.

I also think Mayweather's reasoning for thinking that Pacquiao is benfiting from PED's is also week at best. Don't be fooled by Pacquiao being a flyweight in his career he was 16 he is now 31. People tend to get bigger in that 15 year span. He is the same size as a normal welterweight in terms of highth and reach. He is an elite boxer his recents have either been non elite boxers like David Daiz and Miguel Cotto or once elite boxers who had seen better days like Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. In other words his wins come from him being the better boxer not from PED's

The diffrence is that while every Pacquiao fan and or Mayweather hatter points out that Mayweather has never asked that their be stricter PED testing for both boxers. (a point that somehow seems to get missed.) No one brings up the fact that baised on evdence that is just as week Pacquiao has never placed a $10000000.00 pentley for every Lb over in any of his past bouts before.

There is one difrence. Mayweather agreed to Pacquiaos terms. Pacquiao refused to even make a reasonable counter offer. Mayweather was willing to make comprimises from his origanal position. Both in terms of the testing angancy and when the random testing would stop. Mayweather was willing to agree to a posible fine in the unlikly event that he would weigh more than 147. Pacquiao at best gave a 24 day cut off for random testing. Being that mayweather wanted random testing to happen right up to the fight and made offers of 14 and 20 days before and Pacquiao wanted as much as 30 days going down to 24 days. It dose not take a rocket scientist to figure who wanted the fight more.
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let's keep this simple..

Mayweather has been documented to have been 2lbs over the weight limit in the JMM fight, hence the demand for a 10mil per pound penalty. there was a factual basis for such demand

while the demand for additional random bloodtests has no shred of evidence or factual basis to support such unprecedented demand

obviously, you missed the point...

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ripcity said: ↑

Pacquiao's reasoning is as week as mayweather's for reasoning that Pacquiao uses PEDs. Mayweather couldn't make 144 that is 3 Lbs less than 147. Mayweather has weighed 147 or more in only 3 of his 40 bouts. The one in which he weighed more was a bout with a 154 Lbs limit. Pacquiao's reasoning is week at best.

I also think Mayweather's reasoning for thinking that Pacquiao is benfiting from PED's is also week at best. Don't be fooled by Pacquiao being a flyweight in his career he was 16 he is now 31. People tend to get bigger in that 15 year span. He is the same size as a normal welterweight in terms of highth and reach. He is an elite boxer his recents have either been non elite boxers like David Daiz and Miguel Cotto or once elite boxers who had seen better days like Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. In other words his wins come from him being the better boxer not from PED's

The diffrence is that while every Pacquiao fan and or Mayweather hatter points out that Mayweather has never asked that their be stricter PED testing for both boxers. (a point that somehow seems to get missed.) No one brings up the fact that baised on evdence that is just as week Pacquiao has never placed a $10000000.00 pentley for every Lb over in any of his past bouts before.

There is one difrence. Mayweather agreed to Pacquiaos terms. Pacquiao refused to even make a reasonable counter offer. Mayweather was willing to make comprimises from his origanal position. Both in terms of the testing angancy and when the random testing would stop. Mayweather was willing to agree to a posible fine in the unlikly event that he would weigh more than 147. Pacquiao at best gave a 24 day cut off for random testing. Being that mayweather wanted random testing to happen right up to the fight and made offers of 14 and 20 days before and Pacquiao wanted as much as 30 days going down to 24 days. It dose not take a rocket scientist to figure who wanted the fight more.
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floyd has no proof, pac has...big difference...IDIOT!!!:rofl

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Totomabs said: ↑

let's keep this simple..

Mayweather has been documented to have been 2lbs over the weight limit in the JMM fight, hence the demand for a 10mil per pound penalty. there was a factual basis for such demand

while the demand for additional random bloodtests has no shred of evidence or factual basis to support such unprecedented demand

obviously, you missed the point...
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well pac did ask oscar for a pretty big weight penalty, oscar has never came in heavy

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tolindoy said: ↑

floyd has no proof, pac has...big difference...IDIOT!!!:rofl
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What proof dose Pacquiao have that Mayweather would come in over 147?
Yes weighing in at 146 for a fight at 144 is bad. He did weigh 150 for a fight. However that fight had a limit of 154. None of that is proof.

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I dont think floyd had a problem with the 10 mil penalty, so his fans shouldnt either. Pac refusing the 14-day cut off boggles my mind, pac ruined this fight and a chance to clear his name, its a travesty.

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Kel1981 said: ↑

No he never had to. He saw the **** Floyd pulled with Marquez and wanted none of it in his fight.
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this should have ended here.

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puga_ni_nana said: ↑

this should have ended here.
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looks like the TS is willing to defend his thread... :bbb

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Kel1981 said: ↑

No he never had to. He saw the **** Floyd pulled with Marquez and wanted none of it in his fight.
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to make sure floyd doesn't cheat again

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ripcity said: ↑

Pacquiao's reasoning is as week as mayweather's for reasoning that Pacquiao uses PEDs. Mayweather couldn't make 144 that is 3 Lbs less than 147. Mayweather has weighed 147 or more in only 3 of his 40 bouts. The one in which he weighed more was a bout with a 154 Lbs limit. Pacquiao's reasoning is week at best.

I also think Mayweather's reasoning for thinking that Pacquiao is benfiting from PED's is also week at best. Don't be fooled by Pacquiao being a flyweight in his career he was 16 he is now 31. People tend to get bigger in that 15 year span. He is the same size as a normal welterweight in terms of highth and reach. He is an elite boxer his recents have either been non elite boxers like David Daiz and Miguel Cotto or once elite boxers who had seen better days like Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. In other words his wins come from him being the better boxer not from PED's

The diffrence is that while every Pacquiao fan and or Mayweather hatter points out that Mayweather has never asked that their be stricter PED testing for both boxers. (a point that somehow seems to get missed.) No one brings up the fact that baised on evdence that is just as week Pacquiao has never placed a $10000000.00 pentley for every Lb over in any of his past bouts before.

There is one difrence. Mayweather agreed to Pacquiaos terms. Pacquiao refused to even make a reasonable counter offer. Mayweather was willing to make comprimises from his origanal position. Both in terms of the testing angancy and when the random testing would stop. Mayweather was willing to agree to a posible fine in the unlikly event that he would weigh more than 147. Pacquiao at best gave a 24 day cut off for random testing. Being that mayweather wanted random testing to happen right up to the fight and made offers of 14 and 20 days before and Pacquiao wanted as much as 30 days going down to 24 days. It dose not take a rocket scientist to figure who wanted the fight more.
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You seem intelligent enough not to spell "weak" as "week"

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point is moot. they aren't fighting. Floyd agreed to it.

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Sorry bud. PBF came in overweight, it's a fact, clear evidence. Pac? Where's the evidence? Exactly.

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Kel1981 said: ↑

No he never had to. He saw the **** Floyd pulled with Marquez and wanted none of it in his fight.
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Well where is Clottey's penalty?

Known to be a big welterweight who has been troubled at times with making weight, Clottey has weighed more than 147 pounds for bouts
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ripcity said: ↑

Pacquiao's reasoning is as week as mayweather's for reasoning that Pacquiao uses PEDs. Mayweather couldn't make 144 that is 3 Lbs less than 147. Mayweather has weighed 147 or more in only 3 of his 40 bouts. The one in which he weighed more was a bout with a 154 Lbs limit. Pacquiao's reasoning is week at best.

I also think Mayweather's reasoning for thinking that Pacquiao is benfiting from PED's is also week at best. Don't be fooled by Pacquiao being a flyweight in his career he was 16 he is now 31. People tend to get bigger in that 15 year span. He is the same size as a normal welterweight in terms of highth and reach. He is an elite boxer his recents have either been non elite boxers like David Daiz and Miguel Cotto or once elite boxers who had seen better days like Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. In other words his wins come from him being the better boxer not from PED's

The diffrence is that while every Pacquiao fan and or Mayweather hatter points out that Mayweather has never asked that their be stricter PED testing for both boxers. (a point that somehow seems to get missed.) No one brings up the fact that baised on evdence that is just as week Pacquiao has never placed a $10000000.00 pentley for every Lb over in any of his past bouts before.

There is one difrence. Mayweather agreed to Pacquiaos terms. Pacquiao refused to even make a reasonable counter offer. Mayweather was willing to make comprimises from his origanal position. Both in terms of the testing angancy and when the random testing would stop. Mayweather was willing to agree to a posible fine in the unlikly event that he would weigh more than 147. Pacquiao at best gave a 24 day cut off for random testing. Being that mayweather wanted random testing to happen right up to the fight and made offers of 14 and 20 days before and Pacquiao wanted as much as 30 days going down to 24 days. It dose not take a rocket scientist to figure who wanted the fight more.
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ripcity said: ↑

What proof dose Pacquiao have that Mayweather would come in over 147?

Yes weighing in at 146 for a fight at 144 is bad. He did weigh 150 for a fight. However that fight had a limit of 154. None of that is proof.
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:deal

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AMERICANBORN said: ↑

well he asked de la hoya for a 3mil penalty and i dont think he has over come in heavy, now what that means i dont know haha
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Also enforced a penalty on Miguel Cotto. I think it was 1mil for every pound over.

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