Bring back the Super Heavies

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chatty, Jan 16, 2010.


  1. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True, I hoenstly hadn't taken that into account. I do think CW is a bit too big tho.
     
  2. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    i liked the 190 limit. If it was still around you'd never would have had a guy like Haye there. There are alot of CW's who are 215 who just don't want to fight heavy, excluding the Klitschko's they'd compete fine.
     
  3. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, the HW division would be a lot deeper - quantity and quality wise even with jsut a handful more guys in the mix. As an example, things are looking brighter atm with small HW's coming in, such as Haye, Adamek and Chambers.
     
  4. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    *******s in 3 ... 2 ...

    Only joking.
     
  5. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most Heavies can cut to make Cruiserweight but don't. Adamek, Haye, and Chambers all could cut weight and go under 200. Charguev as well. Arreola could if he didn't eat like a hippo. John Ruiz is a maybe on being able to cut the weight as well, so out of the top 10 heavies, about 6 or 7 would probably be able to cut and go to cruiser.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Then everyone would pack on even more unnecessary nonathletic muscle and/or fat to compete at Super Heavyweight and everything would get worse. They should really just stop sanctioning fights with fat men. Come looking athletic at the minimum limit or don't compete in professional sports.
     
  7. kb_moffat

    kb_moffat Prized Fighter Full Member

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    It's an excellent idea and has been pondered for several years now; athletes have evolved dramatically over the last two decades in power, strength and speed (not only in boxing, american football as well). The WBC Muay Thai Council already does this, and I think it would be good for the world of boxing also. I think people would pay alot of money to see the cross-over mega fights between super-heay and heavyweight too. Hope they can get this going as this would also bring some life back to the heavyweight picture.

    Cheers,
    Kevin.
     
  8. Abdullah

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    I couldn't disagree with you more. The Heavyweight division's weight is unlimited, and always has been. You know, Light Heavyweight used to mean just that, "Light" Heavyweight. And then came Cruiserweight, which wasn't a bad idea in my view. The next change was adding 10 lbs. to Cruiserweight, thus bringing it to 200 lbs. So adding a Super Heavyweight division is not a good idea. Do we really need Light Heavy, Cruiser, Heavy and Super Heavy? That would make a total of 18 weight divisions. How then would we see W. Klitschko-Chambers or either Klitschko vs. David Haye?

    The smaller heavyweights have proven to be able to beat the bigger guys before. Both Ruslan Chagaev and David Haye are smaller heavyweights and they are the only two guys to beat Nikolai Valuev. Evander Holyfield should have won his fight against Valuev and he too is a small heavyweight. Eddie Chambers had no trouble with Alexander Dimitrenko. These are just a few examples.

    The Heavyweight division needs to be left alone. Creating a Super Heavyweight division is like raping the history of this great sport. A lot of great Heavyweight Champions of the past would be Cruiserweights by today's standards. Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Rocky Marciano and Floyd Patterson just to name a few. Just because the big guys of today are more talented then at any time in the past, doesn't mean we need a new weight class. Who are the really talented Super Heavys anyway? The Klitschko brothers. Maybe Chris Arreola. Nikolai Valuev is hardly talented.
    So this new division would consist of fights between the Klitschkos and Alexander Dimitrenko or perhaps Nikolai Valuev. Or we could throw Tye Fields in the mix. Or let's get Butterbean out of retirement. What mouth watering fights we have in the "Super Heavyweight division"! See what I mean?
     
  9. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    Cruiserweight should be 190 pounds. Period. Heavyweight should be anything above that.
     
  10. RonnieHornschuh

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    I disagree. With the limit being now at 200 pounds, more and more talented cruiserweights like Adamek and Haye are coming to the HW division, which makes it more interesting.
     
  11. MrMagic

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    It is not that the small heavyweights are unable to compete, it's that they're being lazy, the lot of them.