What are your stick on victories

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by gooners!!, Jan 22, 2010.


  1. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely. Can't understand why Bowe wasn't desperate for that fight.
    Lewis improved a lot though.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am so sure that Joe Louis would dismantle George Foreman that I wish I could get the fight on to shut the Louis crittics on this site up for good.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Wow. I remember posting with this type of certainty when I first arrived on the board, and you gave me a row ;)

    I still think Louis would crush Foreman like a bug.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Remember it is just my opinion.

    I might just be an idiot.

    You seem to be changing avatars faster than underpants.
     
  5. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dunno, what if he gets backed up and caught early?.

    I might lean towards Joe, but i'd like my sure things against Foreman to have good legs and an ability to reposition themselves that doesn't take half a day.Much as i love Joe, the guy was sloooooow of foot.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I guess that we all have our hunches , and some fights where we have thought out every possible angle. This is one where I have thought out all the angles and found them for Joe.

    Of course if I was any good at predicting the outcome of figfhts I wouldn't need to work for a living, though I did make a tidy sum by taking a picture of Haye and Valuev round work and getting all my colegues to bet on Valuev.
     
  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler may have beaten those guys easily, but it is just good management that let him avoid the man who would have retired him 4 years before Leonard did; the multitalented and all time great, but very unlucky Bobbie Czyz!!
     
  8. McGrain

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    Can't get settled.
     
  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you guys change your underpants? Showoffs
     
  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I beg to diffa. I think Arguello was at his best as a junior-lightweight and have no doubt his bodypunches would have allowed him to catch Maywether and record a KO in 15. 15.15,:happy
     
  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His resume will only look better if they plant victories on it that didn't happen against the best fighters. 'Cause he sure didn't fight 'em:lama:secret
     
  12. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    I know some will disagree but id put my money firmly on Hopkins to beat Marvin Hagler. I think Hopkins had the style to frustrate Hagler and win a decision.
     
  13. Osceola

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    Tyson doesn't need to fight Ali on the inside, he's an exclusively mid-ranged destroyer. Ali doesn't jab hard enough to discourage tyson, nor will his jab land enough against tyson's weave to really bust him up or discourage him.

    Major Stamina edge? Tyson was a 15 round fighter in a 12 round era, stop confusing 1987-1989 tyson with 1997 tyson. Bonavena is nowhere near the same class of fighter as Tyson, nor was his jaw as good, and forget it on the defense comparison.

    The simple fact remains, Tyson moves forward faster than Ali moves backward.
     
  14. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ... dude, even Kevin Rooney, while he was training Tyson, said that Tyson wasn't the same fighter after 6 rounds.

    Of course Bonavena isn't as good all around as Tyson. Where did I say that? However it's definitely my opinion that Bonavena's jaw was significantly better. Bonavena went the distance with a lot of guys with real heavy firepower and yet the only time he was KO'd was by Ali, in the 15th round. He was taking on guys who were far better punchers than Tyson was facing between 86-89, with less defense than Tyson had, and was eating it all up. And he did that over his entire career.

    By the way, Ali was better than Douglas and Holyfield, He also had a better jaw than Tony Tucker, Bonecrusher Smith, Mitch Green or Quick Tillis. Let me know when Tyson KO'd any of those four guys.

    Maybe. But moving forward doesn't mean being successful. And between having to try to hunt down Ali and getting his offense stifled when he gets anywhere close, I don't think Tyson has a chance of being effective enough with his offense to tip the fight in his favor.
     
  15. Osceola

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    uh, no he didn't. source that statement.

    and if you really think bonavena had a better chin than tyson, you're nothing more than a delusional nutjob and my words will be wasted because you can't look at the 70's without rose colored glasses.