Floyd scared of Pacquiao, not of Mosley and style discussion

aah, at last some replies wort replying to.

This is exactly what I suspect Floyd is afraid of: Pac's ability to hit from all angles.
Floyd cancels out many possible shots just by paying attention to the stance and footwork of his opponents when they go in to throw punches. By how some boxers stand he knows whether they ''ll commit or not ...or from some stances a decent hook is simply not possible, as example. Floyd is a master of his game but due to this ability of Pac he will eat shots which he will not be expecting and this is the problem. Floyd will be in a situation where he does not have all bases covered and in control as he normaly likes it.

I totally agree with you and exactly therefor I say that Pac will nearly always win on points again him, simply because Pac will outwork him. Pac might not be able to really hurt him but he will outpoint him due to his higher workrate in comparison to Floyd's.

This is a spot description of how Floyd fights. :good

All boxers of this class know that when they fight a counterpuncher there are certain things you just don't do. I think that both, Pac and Mosley have tactics to fight against such fighters but the problem is always beeing in the ring, executing your plan and depending on your base fighting style it will be more diffcult or easier to stay true to your plan.

If for instance Pac does things he shouldn't do against a counterpuncher, sure he 'll get clobbed around. The only thing that Im saying is that due to his style it will be easier imo for him to fight such a fighter like Floyd and come out victorious but only if he keeps his gameplan.
Im sure Mosley can do the same but it will be harder for him due to his style. The clinical factor in which he destroyed AM showed that he can stick to his gameplan, only therefor Im giving him a chance vs. Floyd. The old Mosley had no chance what so ever against Floyd.

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True, but Cotto was in forwards gear all the time, which Floyd will never be against Pac. He will always be in reverse depending on Pac to attack ... in fact that will be a keypoint in Floyd's gameplan. A totally different picture imo.

All three are great fighers, they worked alot to come this far and deserved their legacy. Do not get me wrong on that one. What Floyd has achieved moneywise is unbelievable and very good in putting the spotlight on boxing again.
My point is that it is interesting that Floyd who has excellent skills is showing wariness in fighting a certain fighter, which tickles me cause then I want to know why.

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Do you guys think (the new) Mosley even has a chance against Floyd?

 

LMFAO!:rofl

This dude said that Floyd is scared of Pacman...but its Pacman who pulled out of the fight!:rofl

Gotta love this dude way of thinking...Pikachu! WTF!

 

Ok, I have to give you this one ..I like your avatar.

Nazim = :good

back to the topic ....

 

give it up buddy, floyd's going to make pac look like a B level brawler

 

Back to the topic...How did Floyd avoid Pac, when it was Pac who pulled from the fight?

Something else...If JMM gave Pacman fits, why cant Floyd have the same success??? Given he's the bigger and stronger version of Marquez, how are you going to overlook that...Its kinda hard to see your points when you show your biasness!

 

Marquez is one mean counterpuncher with speed and balls. See he was trading with Pac and still able to counterpunch. Not many fighters have this skillset.
Pac loves to trade and he went all out because he thinks he is the master of trading punches. Since Pac saw that JMM was willing to trade he just went for it, even though he knew that JMM is a counterpuncher.

I doubt Floyd's gameplan will have on his list: 5. Trade with Pac.

Since now my whole posts were based on Floyd fighting defensive, because this is the safer path and his base style. If Floyd fights defensive I dont see him winning vs Pac.

If he fights offensive but NOT trade with Pac, that might be a different picture: a $ 500 fight.

I would love to see that, but I can simply not imagine him doing that.

Mrtibbs described his (Floyd's) style very good: "He simply does not allow you to brawl, he just withdraws, re sets and counter punches."

PS: Im not biased. Im not a Pac, Floyd, or Boxer X hugger ... their skillset and the matchups interest me. I do like certain boxing styles more then others but thats the case with all of us.

PS2: I found that interview was a real nugget ... I wonder though if people here even watched the interview and the signals. They just read the names Floyd and Pac and then they already have their replies in their head - unfortunately.

 

Floyd handles forward aggression just fine. See his respective fights against Corrales, Castillo, etc. I'm not saying Floyd can't lose to Pac. I see the fight going either way. Pac's speed is obviously going to give Floyd problems. I think it's worthy to point out that the last time Floyd lost was in the amateurs. He lost to a southpaw who fought like Pac. I realize that was a long time ago but I think anyone can agree with me that Floyd tends to have difficulty with speedy southpaws. Then again Pac has trouble with slick boxers. It's a toss up IMO.

Floyd has always been Floyd. He's been called a ducker for years. What should tickle you more is the fact that arguably the toughest, best fighter on this planet is afraid of needles or claims a few blood tests "weakens" him during training when it has been scientifically proven that having blood drawn does not do such thing to your body. I think it's funny when Pac fans call Floyd a "chicken" when their guy is running from tiny needles and has avoided Mosley and Foreman in recent times. I'm not a Floyd fan and I do think he has avoided a few fighters in the past. But it's like pissing into the wind when you point out his cowardly antics while your guy is doing the same thing.

With all that said, I still credit Pac for having a better resume than Floyd.

 

Honestly, I only read the first couple of paragraphs (Ive seen this vid before), my opinion is that it is the other way around.

MP knows deep down that he cant beat FMJ (so does everyone in his team, believe it), both stylistically & in an all round skill sense he knows that a fight vs FMJ = defeat for him.... MP is at his best vs come forward fighters that cant match his speed, he never wanted any of FMJ, he`s happy with his current status & his delusional fanboys cheering everything he does, no matter how embarrassing.

Who walked away from the mega-fight ?

Case closed !

 

This was worse than Orishaman's prediction of Baldomir over Floyd

 

Come on Pikachu, Freddy Roach said that PBF style was a challenge and he would need more time before PBF made the offer to fight (which agreed to all the terms that Pac had made). Manny jumps in and out leaving his feet. You really do not think Money would exploit that? Boxing is all about rhythm if manny cannot get into his because he gets countered every time he jumps in he loses the fight . . . it is that simple. I am not saying floyd wins easily but everything you said is wrong. Manny has to adapt more to floyd's style and even Roach knows it. I am a fan of both men but I see more holes in Manny's game then vice versa . . . the question is can manny land cleanly against PBF? and will he be able to let his hands go? Because as soon as Manny does his bounce thing it is like he is a open target. Manny great equalizer is his power . . . if he can land squarely it could make things interesting.

 

I take you've never followed FLoyd's career, pre-140??? For you to say that he doesnt have the counterpunching skills of Marquez is outlandish! Floyd is better in every department than Marquez so why do you speak of that like FLoyd has no counter punching ability?

If you think FLoyd wont take a page out of Marquez's book and build a gameplan off of it then you're not seeing the bigger picture...Manny has showed in the past that he tends to have problems with boxers that have a good jab and can box off the back foot...Manny will bring the best out of FLoyd...No doubt about it...I'm just not understanding or agreeing with your logic on this matter...Mr. Tibbs is only giving his opinion on the situation...nothing more!:good

 

did you know that cotto beats mosley??floyd is a ***** for fighting an old mosley rather than pac who can give him lots of money and a legacy..

 

How is Floyd the ***** when Manny declined the fight?

Since you want to talk out of your ass...Why is it you overlook that Mosley turned down Floyd in the past?? remember the toothache excuse??:rofl

 

How are you going to say Floyd is a ***** when it was Arum and his team who immediately walked away after Floyd proposed the 14 day window? Schaefer actually hinted that he was still willing to negotiate but Arum wanted no part of it.

 

some of what you say as far as "tehcnicalities" with shane is true...BUT SHANE IS A MUCH MORE DANGEROUS FIGHT FOR FLOYD...ITS NOT EVEN A DISCUSSION REALLY...PACQUIAO IS SMALLER AND HE WORKS OFF ANGLES...HE LITERALLY WILL SIDE STEP SO MUCH THAT HE'LL END UP RIGHT NEXT TO YOU, THUS GETTING OFF HIGH PERCENTAGE POWER SHOTS...PROBLEM FOR MANNY IS THAT FLOYD IS A MUCH BETTER TECHNICIAN THAN MANNY AND IT IS VERY RARE THAT HE LETS HIS OPPONENT GET A STEP AHEAD OF HIM AND TAKE AN ANGLE ON HIM..

SHANE IS A BIG STRONG WW THAT CAN PUT "SMART PRESSURE" ON FLOYD AND HAS GOOD "TECHNICAL BOXING SKILLS"...NOT ONLY IS SHANE A HARDER FIGHT FOR FLOYD BUT IT IS A MORE "PHYSICALY DEMANDING" FIGHT FOR FLOYD AND IT WILL BE MORE "TECHNICALLY DEMANDING" AS WELL...

PAC MAKES A LOT MORE MISTAKES THAN SHANE...NOT TYRING TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM MANNY BUT HIS STYLE COMES WITH A LOT OF MISTAKES IN COMPARISON TO SHANE'S STYLE