Why are you against Olympic style blood testing?

we are suppose to ignore all possible benefits of blood testing haven't you heard?! so says thesmokingm . . . have not read what he has written? it has been written therefore it must be so . . . LMFAO

 

i know it's quite foolish but i had to ask you this because some posters here are actually arguing that taking the olympic style testing would have caught pacquiao the same way mosley would have been caught if they just used an olympic style of test.

 

He is only guilty of high hematocrit, he has to be tested via urine to prove it was EPO. Blood testing does not prove he was on EPO. It is also not the legal test for EPO. Again it is a screener, it tells them hey, this guy has high hematocrit, he could be wtf doping! Send in the urine test, we shall test for zee EPO.

 

implausible but not impossible . . . but that is the reason there is a need for random testing that includes both blood and urine. There is no medical reason why not to take a blood test a week or even three days in advance unless you are arguing the shits and giggles!

 

Hematocrit will eventually mature to hemoglobin and hemoglobin transports oxygen.

Blood test 24 day before then right after the fight will show if Pac has used EPO or done blood doping.

 

if this highly abnormal test result does occur it should be grounds by itself to disqualify a fighter. it really does not matter what was taken to cheat just that they have cheated. Even if the test may be redundant according to you.

 

not required does not equal bad . . . unless you use the shits and giggles defense . . . good night folks.

 

Your just trying too hard to justify in your own mind that Pac was trying to hide something.

 

You have zero clue about what you're arguing. There are humans out there that have high hematocrit. You can also be on medication, have trained high altitude or any other variable. Regardless, having high hematocrit is not tantamount to proof of doping because it can't show that you have used any drug at all!

Btw...

You think he pulled a Varsity Blues move and stuffed a catheter up his uretha? Seriously?

Johnson has admitted that he cycled steroids, and that was how he was able to defeat the tests. However, he was most likely drugged on that occasion because stanzolobol was found in his urine, but not just stanzolobol but unmetabolized stanzobolol. Do you have any idea what that meant? It means he had to have taken stanzolobol hours before the drug test that he knew he was about to take.

Johnson has admitted that he used steroids, except in his case his steroid was furazobol, but that's a whole other can of worms...

 

listen sir, im well aware of what you are saying, but im from the same nation as the guy, who created the testing procedures which are now widely used in cycling, The sport with the absolute strickest of testing procedures.

the name is rasmus damsgaard, if i recall correctly he was first a representative of anti doping denmark, he did the testing in his lab for our lovely little nation. After that the owner of a danish cycling team hired him as a doctor/consultant, so he could create a real strict testing programme, that way sponsors would have a little faith in the sport again. His system is now widespread in the cycling world.

ive seen numerous interviews with him and not once have i ever heard him state blood test are useless, but ive heard the absolute opposite, that blood testing is a valuable tool.

please take note of my previous example, as im a fan of a biological pass, whne it comes to elite level sportmen and women.

if mayweather had previously done 30 tests and his test have all ben within a regiong of 40-42, and he all of a sudden leaps to 48 or the magical number of 50, then that rise in levels are a CLEAR indication of epo usage.

 

I'm sorry, did I say blood is useless?

Again, it is not a clear indication of EPO because its impossible. It can be a clear indication that his hematocrit is suspicious and points to EPO. It cannot be proved that it was EPO because blood CANNOT DISTINGUISH FAKE EPO HORMONE.

If you want to make high hematocrit illegal, then that would make sense.

 

i never said ben did it I said it was mentioned at the inquiry . . . whether it was a technique that was implemented or not is another question

 

Higher than normal hematocrit level can be achieved naturally through high altitude training or when your body is continously exposed to low oxygen.

 

that is why there is a whole list of drugs and medication that are banned that can create a false positive result.

you have never answered the question it may not be required but why is it medically bad? in fact it leads to doubt in the minds of people who would attempt these techniques therefore acting as a deterrent.

 

Why don't you make the case for your point? WTF is this, prove yourself right to have your own opinion?