dirrel vs aa

Abraham isn't as slow of foot as many people make him out to be. He is very good at closing distance, and against both Taylor and Ikeke showed an ability to negate height and reach advantages.

 

So, you think Dirrell wins by hitting AA's gloves and Abraham landing nothing for 12 rounds?

:rofl

 

Watch the first few rounds of Taylor vs Abraham. Then you'll find out that he (Dirrell) can also stick his jab in Arhur's face when he tries to open up and/or come closer. It's not that easy at all. You can't defend at punch at the same time. When Maquez pressured Arthur on the ropes Arthur was in his shell.
Also, being such a fan of AA, you should know that he likes to explode from a distance.

 

Abraham JUMPS into his opponent, while they were closing in for their own punch. That's how he KOed Miranda and Taylor. Other fighters he trapped on the ropes so reach didn't mean anything, reflexes would.

The best effort, when Abraham wasn't just weight drained, had Hamden, Velazco, Eastman, Miranda and Oral.

Hamden was throwing very quick combination flurries that kept Abraham at bay by sheer volume. In the end, he just didn't avoid Abrahams return fire, so he was taken out of the fight in the 12th, having been hit too much.

Velazco was hunting Abraham down with heavy shot combinations trying to rough him up and get him out of there, basically he mimic'd Abrahams owb style. Abraham then took the fight and brawled with him, leading to the result that Abraham was the better Abraham between the two and KOed Velazco by landing more or stronger.

Eastman was throwing a shipload of combinations, trapping Abraham on the ropes, who was just playing too much rope-a-dope and not moving enough (which he did very, very well vs. Ikeke and Velazco). He simply underestimated Eastmans firepower, and that ones ability to absorb his return fire. Basically, I had their fight close to a draw, since Abraham failed to take over and establish a lead in the second half of the fight as he usually does. Just moving one step out of Eastmans reach when that one planted for his combo would have nullified a lot of Eastmans offense, but Abraham buys strongly into that letting his opponent tee off and waste strength. Eastman had the strength, something Abraham didn't take into his equation.

Miranda came into the fight in the shape of his life, fully training for three more weeks when Abraham needed to take a flu break. Abraham came in a bit weakened, Miranda way stronger than ever, so Miranda was able to hunt Abraham with hard combinations like noone else. Abraham needed to move way more since he felt Mirandas punches, part courtesy of that ones unusually excellent shape, part due to his own weakened condition from the long illness break. But props to Miranda for his strong shape, and willing to trade punches for 2/3 of the fight until Abraham faded from blood loss. In the end it has shown that Miranda lost a lot of substance in that fight that Abraham beat out of him, but he came close to legitimately beating Abraham (though weakened) with his strong intensity and endurance. Miranda though could not replicate that showing ever again.

Oral finally almost landed at will on Abraham due to his incredibly quick hands, around Abrahams guard. However, standing that close to Abraham to land so many combinations also had shown a bad idea once Abraham got going and returned the favor, literally beating the **** out of Orals body. Seems not to be the best idea to do that, if you are not able to take what Abraham dishes out.


The only fighter Dirrell could replicate is Oral. However, Oral could not continue that once he got hammered to the body, and finally gave out to bodyshots. I doubt Dirrell could. So he either finds his unique "hit and run" tactics, doing Ottke³ avoiding every flurry of Abraham, or he gets mowed down. Even Froch connected jabs and lead right hands.

 

I'm not a fan. There is no fighter in today's business I would consider myself a fan, sorry to dissapoint you. A question for you: how many jabs did Taylor land? As much as I remember it was one or two a round. But nobody goes trough a round without getting hit. Not even a Willie Pep and especially no B-Level guys, in a historical sense, like Abraham or Dirrell.
AA explodes from distance but when he is in the right distance to hit. He has an excellent judge of distacne.

 

Not even 1 ? :-? :verysad

 

I disagree with the snoozefest.... here's what happens:
Dirrell comes out hot and heavy in rounds 1-5, slugging for all he's worth (I'm sure he has gotten a TON of flak over the way he 'fought' Froch). He tries to put out AA and has a great deal of success in that effort, hurts him bad twice in the process but AA being in too good of shape doesn't go down (yet). Dirrell settles back in defensive mode and AA does a great deal of damage rounds 6-9. It is sparatic over the last rounds but Dirrell gets in a few more good shots, puts him down cause he is tired and still hurting from the earlier rounds and actually wins a split decision.

 

Nah, not really. Hopkins comes closest but he is more or less retired. I rate hit fight against Jones as an exhibition but not an actual bout.

I rarely like a fighter when he is in his prime. The ones I did always dissapoined me, Tyson, Jones, Hamed.

 

yea, if you've followed the sport, it's called activity
boxers can win on activity, just like joe calzaghe did against bernard hopkins despite not landing much

and what makes you think arthur will even be able to get his hands up fast enough to block a dirrell jab? and you make it seem like dirrells long reach cant make it around that guard, your thinking to one dimensional, not to bright are you?

 

and what makes you think arthur will even be able to get his hands up fast enough to block a dirrell jab? and you make it seem like dirrells long reach cant make it around that guard, your thinking to one dimensional, not to bright are you?[/quote]

My dear little friend, thanks. This posting made me laugh the hardest ever on ESB. Thanks. You are the class-clown on here right? :good

 

Abraham will make it a very rough fight and wear Dirrell down to the body. I think Dirrell will be very apprehensive to engage as usual and spend the night running as he did against Froch.
Abraham has faster hands and shorter punches than Froch and should be able to connect at a higher percentage than Froch did.
I doubt Dirrell hurts Abraham at any point in the fight and when Abraham begins landing solidly to the head it won't be long before Dirrell is KO'd.
I'm thinking this will happen between the 8th and 10th rounds or thereabouts.
The problem for Dirrell in this fight is that he will have to exchange at some point to win rounds, he is very quick and can get inside to land punches but Abraham is an excellent counter puncher with huge power and will catch Dirrell occasionally, making him hesitant to attempt it often. This will leave Abraham to stalk him, rough him up, and drain his energy.

 

You didn't bother to watch a couple of Abraham fights, did you ?

 

:good

 

:rofl you hit the nail on the head :good

 

I´m sure Dirrell has a chance to outbox Abraham, but I don´t think he will.
Maybe Dirrell´s speed and movement will help him in the first couple of rounds to keep Arthur at distance, but when Abraham starts to make pressure with his counter-combos in the later rounds, Dirrell will get in trouble imo.

It will be very hard for Dirrell to find the right amount of aggression in this fight. I´m sure he will win some rounds in the first half of the fight, but nobody was able to escape Abraham´s counterpunches and combinations, when he starts throwing them out of his shell in later rounds. Some of you saying that Abraham´s punches are to slow for Dirrell are wrong imo. His handspeed is quite good and very underrated and the angles where he throws some punches from makes them very hard to see.

So if Dirrell is able to take some punches, the fight maybe lasts 12 rounds, but even then Abraham can win on points. Before the fight, nobody was seeing him being ahead on points against Taylor after 12, but he was. That´s the way it was going on in all of his fights and Abraham was never in a situation, when he needed the KO.

Maybe i´m wrong and Dirrell is able to fight a perfect fight against Abraham, but i´m taking King Arthur to win this bout.