message to groves from kenny anderson: lets get it on! ! !

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  1. shaun_brown

    shaun_brown New Member Full Member

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    Frankly I don't want to see the likes of Groves, DeGale and Anderson having a tear-up just now. What's the point? Surely it'd be better to keep these boys busy and then in a couple of years they square off with some titles on the line, them headlining the card and thousands watching. And we have ourselves a showpiece event.
     
  2. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    Because the money will mean it is safer to defend titles against no hopers than them meet up. Any chance of getting these lads to fight should be taken and if they still go on and reach the championship level let them fight again,.
     
  3. shaun_brown

    shaun_brown New Member Full Member

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    Would you have wanted Benn, Eubank and Watson fighting without a title at stake? Or to have fought each other after ten fights or less?
     
  4. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    i want to see it,they could build upon this fight easily .this is the problem with boxing nowadays ...not enough risks taken byu fighters and if kenny wants to fight groves and hes game enough theyn why not .
     
  5. shaun_brown

    shaun_brown New Member Full Member

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    I want these guys to fight when they're at their best. Simple as that.
     
  6. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    maybe,but to fight at this stage for both of them would be a cracking fight ..
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Anderson vs David and Groves vs Dilks are both title eliminators.

    In my mind it makes sense that Anderson faces Groves in a higher level bout.

    Groves not being interested in the Anderson fight exposes the fact he wants to get famous off of DeGales name and it's working cos Groves name is now getting mentioned in the papers alongside his.
     
  8. Gaz S

    Gaz S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can appreciate both sides of the coin whether specific prospects fight now, or further down the line when it's "worth more"?
    However, looked what happened in the light middleweight division domestically several years back. All that talent - Alexander, Roberts, Takaloo, Williams, etc, and of all the great matches that could and should have been made (when it mattered most) we had a grand total of : Zero!

    I say match them now if all are willing, and those who are good enough will be able to go forward and meet bigger and better challenges down the line.
     
  9. ollyc

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    Proof?
    Stop throwing all your toys out of the pram because your not getting the fights you want immediately.
    Do you really think Booth & Haye will allow Groves's to pad out his resume before getting a WBO shot?
    His last opponent wasn't great, but as mentioned numerous times before he was supposed to fight on the Berto Mosely card the following week.
    He was never going to matched with somebody that could jeopardise him appearing on such a high profile stage.
    Prior to that fight he had been brought along perfectly.
     
  10. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I agree, why wait for them to be caught out by a euro/afro bum.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Anderson challenged him. If he can't take up a challenge of someone who is in a very similar position to DeGale MINUS THE NAME then his agenda is transparent.

    Groves record doesn't impress me yet. I know you will want to say how tough so and so is but we won't agree and you'll question my knowledge etc. So bore off.
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Yep. Don't have the fight when its 'worth more' cos it may never happen. Have the fight now and if you are good enough then you will fight AGAIN when it's 'worth more'. Boxing has a new taboo of not fighting multiple times.

    Vasquez vs Marquez have got it right. Remember back in the day with Robinson vs La Motta.
     
  13. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you realise how gullible/naive your being?
    Did you even read the press release where Anderson calls out Groves?
    Here's the relevant section:

    Anderson is busy preparing for his re-arranged British title eliminator against Paul David in Glasgow on 15 March. The pair were originally due to meet on Burns Night in January when David pulled out on the advice of his trainer Dominic Ingle after contracting gastroenteritis on the eve of the contest.

    “As frustrating as it was, we accept that Paul David was genuinely unwell but we also took it as a compliment that he wasn’t prepared to face Kenny when he was less than 100%. Without wishing to be disrespectful to David, we are very confident of beating him on 15 March and are more than happy to then fight Groves afterwards,” said Maree.

    Do you really think Anderson will come through that David fight unscathed, even if victorious?
    Did you not see how he struggled against King when he had a broken rib?
    What if he picked up similar injuries against David?
    Do you really want to see Groves fight a less than 100% Anderson?
    And what if Hayemaker made the Groves-Anderson fight, only for Anderson to pull out injured.
    That would leave 18 days to find a replacement; and then you could have a nice moan about him fighting some indistinct eurobum.
    I get the feeling that this press release was a calculated publicity stunt; just as Groves calling out DeGale was.
    And Kevin Maree states in the same article that Anderson would be happy to fight Groves 'for the same money'.
    Now there's a sure fire way of making sure the proposed fight doesn't even make the informal discussion stage - by making ridiculous financial requests.
    Do you really think Anderson at this stage of his career is worth £50,000?
    A Degale-Groves match up would certainly increase the amount of ppv sales. It would also significantly increase the amount of ticket sales aswell. Groves-Anderson would not. The night would be a financial disaster for Hayemaker if they paid all opponents such exorbitant amounts.
    And finally since when has a fighter been expected to fight an opponent immediately after being called out?
    Do you expect him to change all his plans everytime somebody states an interest in fighting him?
    You've essentially deemed him a fraud because he's not going to fight Anderson in his very next fight. And that's ****ing stupid.
     
  14. jinks

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    The main reason any boxer takes up pro boxing is to make money i agree but surely the promotor has a duty to make fights as close to fifty -fifty as possible as the public and the tv companies are feb up with prospects fighting push overs and it would not do any top prospect to be beaten with a better boxer there been lots that can prove this hatton bruno benn ubanks glen McLory williams thaxton scott harrison so it not be all and end all that some are saying but it be good for boxing to get more of the so called prospect fighting each other now rather than latter