Mayweather/Pacquiao: "The Other Guy Didn't Want The Fight" - Who Is Lying?

Floyd gave up $40mil as well by trying to implemnt something that has never been done before for any of his 40 prior opponents. Floyd says JMM beat Pac 2x, yet doesnt require ost for him, but he does Pac? :huh U guys act as if Pac is the only one who lost out on the money. By the looks of things, Floyd needs the money a lot more than Pac does.

 

Pacquaio fans seem to be using the fact that Mayweather asked for olympic style testing as him showing he didn't want the fight, like he knew for a fact that Pacquiao wouldn't agree to such a demand beforehand.:huh

Looking back over the past few months events have played out something like this...

*They sat down to negotiate and Mayweather's team said they wanted olympic style testing, Pac's team said they wanted $10 million for every lb Mayweather came in over weight.

*Both teams agreed to the other sides demand

*Pacquiao's team then decide they don't want olympic style testing as it's both random and too close to the fight, Roach says that a 5 day window would be fine as Pac feels weak after giving blood and can't train.

*Pac's team offer 3 blood tests on selected dates with unlimited urine tests as a counter offer.

*The USADA come out and explain the need for random testing and how poor the current drug testing procedure is, say of the need for blood testing to catch HGH.

*Mayweather comes up with footage of Pac giving blood 24 days before the Hatton fight.

*A mediator is appointed to try and help with negotiations, and a sit down between both parties is arranged.

*The mediation doesn't work and Arum says the fight is off, claiming Mayweather never wanted the fight.

*The mediator releases a statement saying Arum hasn't told the truth with his last statement.

*Mayweather comes out with a statement saying they offered a 14 day cut off, a big improvement on the 5 days Roach originally said was required.

*Arum comes out and claims Mayweather is lying and he never offered 14 days, he said Pac's team offered to move the 30 day blood test forward to 24 days, no mention of if they agreed to random testing up to the 24 day test or if they still wanted 3 selected blood tests.

*Arum comes out and admits he was lying and Mayweather did offer 14 days but they turned it down.

*Mayweather says he's hopeful of the fight still going ahead while Arum announces Clottey and agreed to fight Pacquiao.

*Berto pulls out of the fight with Mosley because of the earthquake in Haiti so Mayweather sets up a fight with Mosley.

*Pacquiao takes a blood test against Clottey 20 days out and then goes straight back to sparring, something he claimed he couldn't do and was his excuse for not accepting random blood testing.

*The first athlete is caught using HGH by random blood testing.

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I don't think I've missed anything but feel free to point out if I have.

Now how anyone can blame Mayweather for the fight falling through after Pacquiao's excuse for not taking a blood test was revealed to be a lie when he took a test and went straight back to training is a mystery.

 

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end the thread here..Pacs team is full of ****...not necessarily pac, cuz he doesn't determine his own fate

 

Mayweather is getting the blame for even bringing it up in the first place. Its been well documented that Pac has a thing about taking blood. Mayweather was just trying to use this as a psycholgical tool to get inside Manny's head. I myself have the same phobia. I can take needles, but I practically faint from having blood drawn from me. I cant even see it done on tv for that matter.

Pac has never failed any drug tests, and didnt come under question till the mayweathers were astonished at how Manny was putting his opponents down, and had to come up with a reason as to why or how.

As for the $10mil per pound over stipulation, Pac had reason to throw that in there. Mayweather pulled a fast one on Marquez, and Pac wanted to make sure that he didnt pull the same stunt against him. Make the weight, and you'll be fine. Big difference from having blood randomly drawn from u while training for the biggest fight of your career.

My thing is this.....Why after all of the negotiations have been agreed upon, throw a wrench into things by demanding OSDT? It wasnt needed for any of Floyd's first 40 opponents, so why now?

It also doesnt help Floyd's case that he has a history of avoiding certain opponents. Pac on the other hand has fought everyone thrown his way without any excuses as to why he feels he doesnt have to face them.

 

Its funny that you don't call into question why it is the one other time pac did a drug test (specifically), not a physical, before a fight he lost.....

I think pacs team were so ready for mayweather to price himself out of the fight that when he agreed so fast to all their stipulations it caught them off guard....

Remember Arum worked with Floyd...And after the two split he would argue that floyd only took fights that he knows he will win for sure.....

Arum Knows that Floyd will tax pacs ass in that fight.....

From my understanding pacs camp picked the glove size, the ring size, and the payment for every lbed over limit....All mayweather asked for is random drug testing....

And why doesn't anyone ever bring up teddy atlas comments on the subject that he got from an insider in the pac camp?

 

I think they both wanted the fight and got tied up in bull**** somewhere along the line, too many egos and personalities getting involved.

No where though, can I see where Mayweather ran from Pac, he accepted every term and would have signed up on it. Team Pac made the mistake of making an issue out of something that shouldn't have been an issue. Taking a simple blood test.

Too much misinformation came out of the Pac camp (they want a test every day, it drains Pac of power, they won't do what Mayweather tells them, blah blah) that has really raised a few impartial eyebrows.

 

Shane never failed a drug test either!!

PAc has too many people talking in his camp...Roach says one thing, koncz something else, and Arum something else....They all need to shut up

I think Arum didn't want the fight to happen.....He's the only one in that camp that knows what maweather is capable of..

 

Funny u bring that up. Where is this so-called email if it were so true? Dont u think Teddy would want to clear his name after being called out on the topic? No. What does he do instead? Put blame on a NY Times columnist, and deny he ever read such an email.

How about the "inside info" that was leaked from an associate of Al Haymon about how Floyd never had any intentions of fighting Pac dating back till Nov/Dec? Could this be the reason why Floyd thru a wrench into the negotiations, then put the blame on pac for ducking once he didnt oblige? Sounds more realistic to me.

 

That is not correct, the blood tests were part of the negotiations .. as far as I know, Mayweathers only stipulations and they were agreed on at the negotiations.

As for the other question ... because Mayweather has never accused / suspected any of his previous opponents of PED use. Simple.

 

It's been well documented since negotiations stalled, but are you saying it was well documented before negotiations took place?:huh

Mayweather clearly suspects Pacquaio is taking something he shouldn't be so he asked for stronger testing to make sure, nothing wrong with that I don't think as anyone else would have just taken the tests and made it as insignificant as the whole $10 million per lb over weight that Mayweather agreed too, similar to how there's no fuss being made about the testing in the Mayweather vs Mosley fight, it's insignificant as both agreed.

I thought the $10 million for every lb over wasn't needed but Mayweather agreed so it's not really a problem, he's never had a problem with making 147 so I don't see why he would come in over, seems more of a petty thing but Mayweather agreed so no big deal.

Your final point is interesting and one that has been brought up a few times, you seem to have the opinion that the fight was all sorted and then Mayweather threw in the demand for olympic style testing at the end which isn't the case, Mayweather said in his first statement that the olympic style testing has been in negotiations from the beginning, Roach also said that Pacquiao's team agreed to olympic style testing so why people claim it was thrown in at the end to ruin the fight.

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Mayweather and his loud mouth family, talk a lot of shite the lot of them

 

why and how can he produce an email that his insider received......That means you expose your insider not urself....but thats neither here nor there, I just thought that that was interesting that he stated that on live tv.....Atlas has faded to black after he said that pacs camp allegedly asked mayweathers camp what would be the penalty and or will the fight still be on if their fighter test dirty.....

Fact of the matter is pacs camp backed out of the fight for multiple conflicting reasons

 

Great post!:good

 

Plain and simple. Had Floyd approached this fight under the same conditions he approached his first 40 pro fights, we would be seeing Pac/Floyd in 2 weeks instead of Pac/Clottey. He chose to complicate things with this OSDT.

Does Floyd claim of "A boxer doesnt start of ordinary and become extrodinary" really hold any weight? That sounds plain silly. Basically he's saying that a boxer cant improve throughout his career unless he's on some sort of PED. Can it have anything to do with Pac not having an amateur backround? Hmmmm. :huh He had to learn, and improve while coming up in the pro's.

 

I see your reaching...stop posting now and save yourself