Wins over Judah

Honestly, Baldomir's win was probably most impressive to me. SImply because Judah had so many advantages, Speed (both foot and hand), Power, SKills, Defense, Agility, Experience, Hometown Advantage. Plus he was the Champ, and like the old saying goes, you have to the take the belt from the champ (no one is just going to give it to you). Baldomir had no business even being competitive in that fight, and yet by the 7th and 8th round, suddenly he was. You could see the fear in Judah's eyes, the concern in his corner, when Baldomir just wouldn't go away and kept coming forward. Baldomir won that fight simply on conditioning and will power, he pretty much broke Judah's spirit. WHich is pretty incredible to do, when you think of all the advantages that Judah had, and the lack of any real power, speed, or skill on the part of Baldomir.

 

I love all the Cotto "cheated" explanations by the haters.

 

From what Ive heard, Judah couldn't hurt Baldomir and got scared. Is it a good fight:huh It's the only Judah loss I didn't see and I've been holding off from seeing it because I'm so pissed off at Judah for blowing his chance to win. It's not like he was shot to bits or got ko'd he just threw away all his advantages from what Ive heard again I didnt see the fight and wanted to ask if it was a good fight. Thanks:good

 

It's really a tale of 2 fights, the first half is Judah completely outclassing Baldomir making him look real bad, while showboating a bit and just being real arrogant. Baldomir starts to get closer and closer, but is still pathetically slow. Finally in the one of the middle rounds, he catches Judah with a solid punch, not particularly powerful or surprsing, just solid. But it hurts Judah, and Judah suddenly becomes very defensive. Baldomir senses Judah's weakness (and or hesistancy) proceeds to walk him down the rest of the fight. The fight reminds me alot of the proverbial race between "The Tortoise and The Hare", where the Tortoise just keeps going along slowly and the hare jumps off to the early lead, never thinking that the tortoise has a chance until it's too late.

 

I really don't go off of the judges cards.

Who didn't know that Mayweather would always get the nod in close rounds?

IMHO, I just think Judah was Mayweather's most competitive fight at WW and that isn't saying much for WW competition. Because, to your point, by about round 5-6 Mayweather started gaining momentum and busting Judah up.

 

:thinkInteresting. Thanks for the insight I'll be sure to watch it after I'm done with Whitaker-Pineda, Whitaker-Mayweather, & Nunn-Roldan:hi:

 

mayweather got dropped and arguably got outboxed for the first 3rd of the fight. but i would say that was the best win of them all more on the line better prepared etc.

clottey lost the 1st round then absoutly bulldozed him the later rounds

the cotto fight had cotto looking like pure bollocks in the first 3 rounds the left uppercut landed so flush. showed obvious signs of cotto's static defence. and those low blows where definitly placed i have no doubt about it.

 

I would say Miguel Cottos TKO victory was more impressive

 

:yepgive me any other boxer who would of got away with that in and after the fight, he got scott free after 2 deliberate body lows. koki kameda got crucified by boxing fans when him and his trainer agreed he was going to low blow the guy to back him up when he was losing. why should cotto get a pass? typical nuthugger response "oh because he is a fighter, he is a brawler, he is an animal" :dead
you know for a fact had judah done the same he would of had thousands of fans saying what a terrible thign zab had doen yadayadayada :nod.

 

Clottey, then Floyd, then Cotto

 

Tito Trinidad did it to Vargas.
Joe Calzaghe did it to Hopkins.
Kostya Tszyu did it to Hatton.
Zab Judah himself tried it against Mayweather but was far to conspicuous.

Cotto getting away with it, is contingent on the ref involved (ranges from ref to ref) and his clean cut reputation in the ring. In short he was given the benefit of the doubt. I thought they should have taken a point away. But I don't think it affected the outcome of the fight; Cotto would have beaten him anyway. Remember Cotto himself had to endure a deep cut as a result of a head butt Judah caused which was far more demanding than the low blows.

I stick with my pick of Cotto having the most impressive win.
Final scoring at the time of stoppage was 97-91 for all 3 judges.
TKO11 (Doesn't get any more decisive)

Followed by Mayweather 117-111, 116-112, 119-109
Mid-fight Adjustment saw him out of early trouble on his way to boxing clinic.
Impressive win but falls short.

Then the Clottey which I'm not sure why anyone would pick it given that it was an even fight going into the 9th round and it had an inconclusive ending.
Official scores (as a result of the 30 second 9th round) 87-84, 86-85, 86-85 in favor of Clottey.


I hope it's not a sad attempt to pump up Clottey right before he faces Pacquiao.

 

Cotto - two ridiculous low blows was the story of that fight

Clottey - scoring 30 sec of last round from one judge gave it to clottey

Floyd - best by miles had to adapt for a good off the floor victory.

 

performance wise I'd say Floyd because he adjusted mid fight and turned it around to a pretty decisive victory

entertainment wise I'd say Cotto... much more action in it (albeit a bit dirty)

 

yup

 

If it wasn't for those two low blows Judah would have go on to win the fight 120-108 on all three scorecards, possibly even stopping Cotto. I know some of you believe this! In the middle rounds Judah zips Cotto illegally on the break, opening the cut on Cotto's lip even more. What does Cotto do? Hugs him and goes back to work.


A guy who deliberately nailed Mayweather low, bitching and moaning about low blows. I've heard Judah mention those low blows million times. Give it a rest and admit you lost to a better fighter!