CLOTTEY: 147lbs - PACQUIAO: 145 3/4lbs

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  1. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is what a true welter vs a light weight at best should look like.Everyone knows Cotto is not really a big welter.Clottey is.I think we will see a tough fight.I think Pac is going to have problems Or he might be too fast for Clottey.Even though Jushua is bigger.Pac is faster and hits harder.
     
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    Marquez is the worst possible match up for Pacq and really, I thought he won the first fight. Sure, it defo has to do with those early knockdowns, but those count right?

    Even a prime Hoya wouldn't beat Pacquio, because the way to beat Pacquio is having an imposing right hand.

    As for the others, don't agree on Tito but regardless, Pacquio is never a WW to begin with. Let's see those guys fight Pacquio at 130. Pacquio didn't make history fighting welter, he made history in the lower weights. The only reason he's fighting WW is because he's that good, he can beat WW opposition despite the obvious disadvantages he's faced with.
     
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    Disagreed about Cotto, he might not be your tallest welter, but he's definitely a solid WW fighter. Cotto's fight weight is around 155.
     
  4. boxsensei

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    Pacquiao is a true welter. If he doesn't want to fight at WW, then he should weigh in at 140 or less and fight in a lower division. He used to fight in lower divisions but like a lot of other great fighters he has moved him and won titiles along way. He's already a great fighter and people don't need to keep making of BS as a way of trying to hold him up in higher esteem by making size excuses. He's good enough that he doesn't need it. 2morrow night we have a WW fight between 2 true welters, may the best man win.
     
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    You think a prime DLH would lose to a prime Pac? Wow. Ok. I highly disagree based on the fact that he has a size/height/reach advantage. Of course that renders useless when a fighter turns old, loses his desire to fight and becomes drained. Oscar had one of the best jabs in the game. That along with his height, decent speed, and determination, he should be able to keep Pac at bay. The Oscar I saw in the fight against Pac was the guy who just wanted to show up, pretend to work, and get paid.

    I think listing Pac as a natural lightweight is a way to promote him, to bolster his image. The guy walks around at a weight of 150-155 lbs. That suggests to me he's more of a welterweight. I've seen him in person and he does appear small but not any smaller than Hatton. He actually looked bigger than Cotto during their weigh in.
     
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    Oscar doesn't know how to cut off the ring. Even prime version.
     
  7. PFG

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    Why don't you show proof of those claims. Especially when there are several quotes from Roach stating the opposite, that Manny has to eat a lot in order not to lose size.

    Cotto's a lot bigger than Manny, structurally. People only watch height, when the actual weight is dependent on many other factors. Cotto was ripped as f*ck in that weigh in, that's generally a sign of a fighter barely making weight. Pacquio is very confortable let's say making 147.

    Oscar's a great fighter, but Manny's too elusive for him.
     
  8. gyll

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    And you expect me to believe everything Roach says? Especially when he's the front man in regards to promoting Manny Pacquiao? My claims aren't any less credible than yours. I don't need to provide proof because his walk around weight has been discussed many times; 150-155 lbs is the reported weight unless I'm badly mistaken.

    Lol. I'm not that naive. I trust my eyes. Believe me, I don't just compare height. I study the entire frame. On that particular day Cotto looked drained, thinner than usual. It didn't matter what weight he came in at though, because Pac is just the better man in terms of skill. But if we're talking about size alone, Pac appeared bigger on that day.
     
  9. valford

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    See how you were affected by my post. Do you honestly beleive what you are saying? Why the praise now for pac? Where were you when they were blasting pac for fighting cotto at a catchweight? Which according some expert here 145 is not a welterweight bout. I will ask you now and I want a real answer. Is pac a real welterweight? Is Jmm a real welterweight after fighting floyd at 146? I for one firmly believe that pac is a true 140lbser. He's optimum fighting weight. Whether you agree with me or not is not my ****in business. I'm just stating facts.
     
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    Wegh-in clip :)
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRp-6cmPe4[/ame]
     
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    :rofl
     
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    dammed..!!mannys head is really bigger than clottey..:rofl
     
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    lol, I just found out you are a liar and an alt. you couldn't hold it in anymore, and now I know who your alts are lol...