Where should Tim Bradley rank P4P ????

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  1. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bradley looking gud @ 140. I don't think he fought n any other wt classes so I cannot go too high 4 him. He's undefeated nd da #1 dominant figure n his class with the young nd talented Devon Alexander slowly creeping up with 2 very very gud wins, Witter nd Urango. Both victories by stoppage. Anyhow, DESERT STORM I have outside 10. more like 12-18. He may b another Kostya Zoo defeating all challengers 4 a while, then his ranking will jump.
     
  2. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    140 iz beautiful! stacked lyk fuk...
     
  3. Richy.r

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    Wright hadnt won since 2006, he went life and death with Martinez and Margarito is a decent enough win.

    There are better more deserving fighters out there than PW
     
  4. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok then lets give this a whirl...

    1 - Money Mayweather
    2 - Pacman
    3 - Valero
    4 - Hopkins
    5 - Mosley
    6 - Marquez
    7 - Donaire
    8 - Dawson
    9 - Cotto
    10 - Williams

    From here Im just naming names who are pound for pound beter than Bradley in my opinion

    11 - Varquez
    12 - Caballero
    13 - Klitchko 1
    14 - Klitchko 2
    15 - Ward
    16 - Pavlik
    17 - Sturm
    18 - Berto


    I havent even gone under Junior Featherweights yet!!!! But it starts getting trickier for me now...

    19 - Povetkin
    20 - Glen Johnson
    21 - Bute
    22 - Froch
    23 - Collazo

    Gets really tricky for me now but I honeslty believe these two have the tools to destroy Bradley

    24 - Khan - looks so good defending his title, is a new fighter under freddir Roach

    25 - Alexander - what he did to Urango made me stand up and take notice - a great display from him

    So there you go - 25 boxers pound for pound better than Bradley.

    ALL WON WORLD TITLES, ALL FOUGHT BIG NAMES

    Bradley could be a star, but he hasn't fought anyone yet thats why I dismiss him. He got a split against Witter and beat up 2 other people who are not classy. His next defence is against an undefeated unknown - Luis Carlos Abregu - who is he!!!???

    Bradley needs to test himself against a big name before I even think about him being a top 25 pound for pound fighter

    24 - Khan
     
  5. JMP

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    Khan, Collazo, Berto, Povetkin, and Sturm above Bradley is a joke.
     
  6. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I can nitpick anybody on that list. Wow he had a CLOSE win over Margo :patsch Look what Mosley did to Margo? Look what Margo did to Cotto! And if you think Margo was plastering in the Cotto fight then why wouldn't you think he was in the Williams fight? And yeah Winky is past his best, but how many WWs today could've beaten him that night? Not many! How many WWs can fight Sergio to a close fight at 154? And make no mistake, PW is STILL a WW, the only reason he went up is because nobody would fight him.

    I guaruntee if Cotto had the past 2 years Williams did, he'd be top 3 P4P!
     
  7. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Mate i admire the time and effort you put into this , but its ****in nonesence , i think our argument stops here !!!!! :good
     
  8. JMP

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    Who is Varquez? A combination of Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez?
     
  9. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like I said - all listed have held world championships before, have fought big names and are highly regarded worldwide

    Bradley has a good skill set, but please name some of the fighters on the list I submitted who you think are better p4p?

    Bradley won the WBC against a faded Witter, and even that one I scored for Witter, Holt is not a big name and Peterson is a nobody.

    Im not dismissing him, but for Petes sake, lets see him against a big name before we even consider top 10 p4p!!!!!!
     
  10. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Williams has not looked that good in any of his big wins , he has no box office quality or likeability , if Williams still wanted to campaign @147 im sure there would be someone by now willing to fight him , the guy is a JrMW / MW now . Only the pureists warm to Williams and even most of us dont like his style too much .

    I think the Martinez fight can be looked upon differently though .
     
  11. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol! Sorry, should have been Israel Vazquez!!!!
     
  12. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely not top ten material based on resume.
     
  13. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch won the WBC off Pascal, the top contender at the time and won it convincingly.

    He went on to beat Jermaine Taylor, highly regarded befoe this loss, knocking him out in the 12th.

    Beat an undedeated up and comer Dirrell in a fight I felt he shaded.

    Froch - undefeated like Bradley - HAS BEATEN BETTER OPPOSITION!

    There is no doubting that, Froch has no shyed away from anyone. Bradley is fighting anobody next - not good enoguth to be on the pound for pound top 10 list.

    Why you dont like the Klitchkos baffles me, great skill sets and both long, undisputed champions.

    You didnt highlight loads of fighters, so my original claim he shouldnt be in the top 10 p4p does make sense.

    He can be, just needs to FIGHT TOP FIGHTERS
     
  14. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    When you understand the meaning of pound for pound ratings we'll dance , as you clearly are having difficuilty determining the difference between acheivements and ability .
     
  15. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't get into this P4P stuff personally, but your list wasn't that good. I'm no where near a Bradley supporter and I don't think he's a top 10 fighter yet, but I think you're underselling him. To have Froch, Johnson, Khan, Vazquez and some others ahead of him is beyond foolish. Froch beat Pascal, but when was Pascal a guy who made you P4P worthy? Taylor seems like a good person, but he was always a hype job and certainly was by that point. Froch lost to Dirrel. Vazquez hasn't fought in forever.

    You say he needs to fight top fighters right? What top fighters have Khan, Povetkin, Valero, and even Berto beaten? Bradley's resume is much better than the resumes of those boxers and Johnson hasn't beaten a top fighter in a few years.