VIDEOS: Bernard Docusen W 10 Frankie Fernandez; Yoshio Shirai W 15 Dado Marino III

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mantequilla Napoles is fantastic....
     
  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great to see that so much Rodriguez footage exists. He's such a quality fighter...
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed.

    This **** should be stickied.. awesome footage here.
     
  4. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    You should be 'stickied' in jail for never answering ya phone!!
     
  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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  6. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's footage of Lloyd Marshall on the comeback trail late in his career, vs. Dietrich Hucks in Germany:
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    Here's Gene Fullmer in a rough battle with the always difficult journeyman Milo Savage:
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  7. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never saw anyone else use the ropes like Lloyd Marshall did.
     
  8. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bobo Olson TKO 11 Pierre Langlois, & W 10 Tiger Jones:
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    These are two fights from Olson's somewhat underrated tenure as MW champion. The first is a title defense against French contender Pierre Langlois. Langlois was a very good, notoriously difficult "spoiler" type fighter who fought a number of the top fighters in and around his weight class (ie: Giardello, Basilio, Gil Turner, Rocky Castellani), usually in their backyards, and often either beat them or came up short on close/disputed decisions. He was a rugged, quick all-around boxer-fighter. In his most recent fight, he had scored a big upset win over Giardello, also becoming one of the very, very few fighters ever to floor Joey along the way (that fight is also on YT BTW). Nevertheless, it was Giardello who was reportedly pegged to be Olson's next challenger, and only a knee injury that Joey suffered in a car accident allowed Langlois to enter as a substitute. Langlois made one of his typically gutty showings, but Olson generally held the upper hand all the way. Ultimately, a badly cut eye resulted in a rare stoppage loss for Langlois, with Olson clearly ahead on the scorecards.

    The second fight, this one a non-title fight, is against another notorious "spoiler" in Tiger Jones. Jones was coming fresh off his career-defining upset of a comebacking Ray Robinson. Olson weighed in at a surprisingly heavy 168 pounds for this fight, and was reportedly using the fight to "test the waters" at a higher weight, planning an eventual campaign for a shot at the LHW title. For the most part, Olson matched Jones at close quarters and outclassed him. After another dominating win over ex-champ Joey Maxim (who he dropped several times), Olson was given a shot at Archie Moore's title. Although a number of expects were impressed enough with Olson's performances at 175 to give him a good shot at pulling off the "upset," Olson turned out to have bitten off more than he could chew and was blasted out with ease in just 3 rounds. However, his own impressive showing against Jones was one of the factors that made him a big favorite when he ultimately defended his title against the Robinson that Jones had beaten. However, Robby "shook up the world" when he blasted out Olson in 2 to take his title and signal the start of Bobo's decline. Although Olson would return years later as successful contender at LHW, he was never a titleholder again and never regained the stature and respect he once held.

    Walter Cartier KO 1 Joe Rindone:
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    This fight showcases Walter Cartier, a hard-punching rising MW contender of the early '50s. Here, he can be seen blasting out tough journeyman Joe Rindone in the 1st round. Cartier was a popular (in New York) and heavily hyped prospect in his day, billed as having "the boxing ability of Tunney and the punch of Dempsey." In actuality, there was some truth to both those claims; unfortunately, he had the chin of neither, and that ultimately was his downfall. At his peak though, he embarked on a lengthy string of wins, including two decisions over tough perennial contender Eugene Hairston and notable KO wins over Jimmy Sherrer and Billy Kilgore in addition to Rindone. Eventually, his winning streak was snapped by an unlikely source: WW champ Kid Gavilan, who surprisingly KO'd Cartier in the 10th and final round. In a tense and dramatic battle, both men were shaken early, but Cartier used his power and boxing skill to keep Gavilan at bay and pile up a points lead in the middle rounds. However, Gavvy furiously rallied in the final round to knock Cartier flat on his face and pull the fight out. This fight broke Gavilan into the MW rankings and put him on the way to his eventual shot at the MW title two years later. For Cartier, it brought his momentum to a stunning halt and started him on his decline. He lost his next fight on an upset stoppage to Bobo Olson, reportedly after injuring his ankle, and after a couple years and a few more losses was generally considered washed up. He did have a few decent wins after that, namely over Bobby Dykes and Tuzo Portuguez, but after a couple more stoppage losses he never fought again.
     
  9. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My2sense, thank you for posting these great fighters of yesterday...Yes to you who think that boxing started with Ali on...THE"latest is not always the GREATEST". Thanks again....
     
  10. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Archie Moore W 10 Nino Valdes I
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    Here is one of Valdes' fights prior to his "breakout" win over Ezzard Charles. It was in fights such as these, and the one against Baker that was shown previously in this thread, that Valdes gained some notoriety for his toughness and grit. He didn't win, but he put up surprisingly spirited and competitive fights against his more well-known opponents. Moore and Valdes would fight again a couple years later, when Valdes was at his peak, and Moore won a close, disputed decision to earn his shot at Marciano's title.

    Valdes TKO 2 Tommy "Hurricane" Jackson
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    This was one of Valdes' biggest and best career wins, over perennial leading contender Hurricane Jackson. This fight was billed as an eliminator to determine the next challenger for Marciano. Jackson was a tough, relentless, swarming, mauling pressure fighter. His style was ugly and even amateurish-looking, but also flashy and surprisingly effective. He quickly became a fan favorite and had won a lot of praise for his stoppage wins over Rex Layne, Dan Bucceroni, and Charley Norkus. He was favored to stop Valdes as well, but Valdes proved to be simply too big and powerful for him. Jackson would remain a leading contender for a few years afterward, during which time he twice beat Ezzard Charles, and was seemingly always just on the cusp of a title shot - but lost key fights that prevented him from getting it. He eventually did get a shot at Patterson, who he had previously given a tough, competitive fight to in a title shot eliminator, but by that time he seemed perhaps a bit shopworn and was battered into a brutal late round stoppage, after which he quickly went downhill.
     
  11. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here are two fights that show the legendary Laszlo Papp, one of the best amateur boxers in history, and a fine professional as well. Papp was always considered a talented prodigy in the ring, but his career success was stifled by his being from then Communist Hungary, which restricted his ability to fight as a pro. He won three Olympic gold medals in the '50s and numerous other international amateur championships. This first fight is noteworthy in that it shows a rare defeat for Papp, against Poland's Zbiginiew Pietrykowski (reportedly the first time Papp had ever been stopped as an amateur):
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    Papp eventually avenged this defeat in the semi-finals of the '56 Olympic games, in which he also beat Jose Torres in the finals to win his third gold medal. Those fights are on YT as well BTW.

    Eventually, when Papp was already 30 years old and past his peak, his government granted him limited ability to fight as a pro. Here is probably the best "name" opponent he was able to get a fight with, former contender Ralph "Tiger" Jones:
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    Papp eventually became considered one of the leading MW contenders and there were talks of him challenging either Dick Tiger or Joey Giardello for the title; but politics prevented both fights from happening. Papp ultimately fought until he was nearly 40 years old, never losing a pro fight, but never being allowed to fight for a title. As "compensation" for his situation, the IBHOF chose to induct him several years back.
     
  12. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ernie Hunick TKO 3 Chalky Wright:
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    Here is the last fight in the career of FW champ Chalky Wright. The footage deteriorates before the end, but the fight was stopped after the 3rd round with Wright unable to continue, reportedly having been seriously injured by a body shot.
     
  13. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    I came too.
     
  14. lolb

    lolb Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for posting
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Thanks. Finally saw John L Sullivan on film in the ring with gloves!