Wladimir Klitschko VS Eddie Chambers Round 12 Knockout Video

Would they ? ...Can you prove it though ? Note, i'm only asking...Because as far as i'm concerned..i see no evidence. Seems to me that it would be more of a 50/50 type situation.

Also what's the difference between today's bums and the 80's or 90's bums ? or hell 70's , 60's bums too... What makes them superior ? I don't get it...

 

I follow boxing too. & i fail to understand your reasoning. It seems to me that you just happen to have a different opinion. Nothing more. Saying: "just by watching" is no proof. Earlier , i asked you if you could "prove it".

But you haven't.

Let's see. You boldly claimed that :

I don't know. it's a possibility. Maybe he'd even get KOed in 10 seconds. OR he could last the distance , or maybe even win a decision. I'd say , that a guy like this (with his style , reach & size) would probably have a 50/50 chance against anyone.

It seems reasonable enough. 50/50...But i fail to understand how someone can be certain , as if tyson > wlad = KO rd 2 , was a fact. It isn't.

As impressive as Tyson was , he was just human. in my previous replies , i gave you a list of opponents who lasted more than 2 rounds against a "prime" Mike Tyson. Here it is again:

Vs Jesse Ferguson = 6 rounds
Vs James Tillis = UD
Vs Mitch Green = UD
Vs Jose Ribalta = 10 rounds...
Vs James Smith = UD
Vs Tony Tucker = UD
Vs Pinklon Thomas = 6 rounds
Vs Tyrell Biggs = 7 rounds...

I then asked you:

" Do all these guys also **** Klitschko ? "

and you simply responded:

By admiting that "half" of them would give Klitschko all sorts of problems. It begs the question...What about the other half then ? The other half who forced "prime" Tyson to win by UD or 6 or 10 rounds ?...or simply last more than 2 rounds ?

Are we to believe that this other half , (that klitschko would have no problem with) would last the distance against prime Tyson but Klitschko wouldn't ? ..

Also , it's insulting of you to label anyone who doesn't share your views as: "insane" ...

Who are you ? the holder of all truths ?

Now , Let's take a closer look at that list...let's even take "half" of the ones who lasted the distance. (or the longest)

Joe Ribalta. Lasted 10 rounds. His reach = 80..He's 6'5 tall
James Tillis Lost by UD. His reach = 76.....He's 6'1 tall
Green , lost by UD. His reach = 82...He's 6'5 tall..
Smith , lost by UD. His reach = 82...He's 6'4 tall
Tucker , lost by UD. His reach = 82..He's 6'5 tall

There seems to be a patern here. Maybe it could simply be a coincidence.
and I'm sure Tyson already defeated fighters who were equally tall too.

But still , if the likes of Ribalta , Tillis , Green , Smith , Tucker could last that long with a prime Tyson.... Why is it far fetched or impossible for a 6′6½ tall guy who happens to be trained by emanuel steward , who also happens to have a solid and powerfull jab & a reach of 81 to do the same or better ?...why will he certainly fail miserably after 2 rounds ?

i mean , i've read the many reasons from Klitschko's detractors. I don't have a short attention span... I get it. Tyson was faster , more versatile dynamic...& Klitschko is in a nutshell.."****".

Fair enough. afterall , why would an incapable , slow & shitty boxer last more than 2 rounds against a specimen such as prime Tyson ? It seems absurd. And yet... Ribalta did it...

I read the complaints...according to the detractors ..Not only is Klitschko garbage...but his competition is even more deplorable than he is.

Let's take Klitschko's latest opponent. Chambers. For the sake of argument..let's just say that both are worthless.

It still doesn't explain why a guy like this:
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=557&cat=boxer
would last 10 rounds against prime Tyson.

The only possible explanation is that Tyson's competition was way superior.

Chambers only had 1 loss prior to his fight against Klitschko. 1 loss..Against Aleksander Povetkin.

Some would argue that Povetkin is "utter trash"...But whether that's true or not. We're still talking about a guy who won 4 gold medals (in athens olympic games , world & european amateur championships)
the rest of his credentials are available at:

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Povetkin[/ame]


Jose Ribalta ?

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Ribalta[/ame]

He had 3 losses prior to his fight against Tyson.

One against a nobody
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=2523&cat=boxer

Another against Smith (the guy who lasted the distance against tyson)
NOTE: Smith had 5 losses prior to his fight vs Tyson
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=563&cat=boxer

Finally , Ribalta also had a loss against Marvis Frazier (who got koed in 1 round by Tyson)
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=519&cat=boxer

Now , it may be unfair to point out that Ribalta lost against a nobody (afterall ,Bernard Hopkins lost against Clinton Mitchell)
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=1415&cat=boxer
But that didn't stop him from becoming a legend..

Still....Why are these guys better challenges than the likes of Chambers or Chagaev or hell even Rahman for that matter ? (afterall he did beat Lennox Lewis)..

From my perspective. All eras..(without exception) are overrated. Some more than others (it's easy to **** on today's era , but we can do the same for all of them).

What about them ?

Bowe....Couldn't beat the mentally perturbed (mental midget) Andrew Golota on two occasions. (and sadly , this idiot ruined his own chances of winning against Bowe even though he had his number).

Morrison , powerful yes...But as overrated as it gets...(even more overrated than Bowe if that's possible)...I personally associate this guy with Stallone's Rocky V...Not greatness.

Witherspoon ? Bruno? are you serious ?...

Lewis & Holyfield...Finally ! two amazing champs of the sport. But still...I don't see what would be insurmountable about beating these two. Lewis never gave the other Klitschko his rematch. (no wonder)...

He couldn't finish Zeljko Mavrovic (none of his punches had any effects on the guy...Having said that , Mavrovic was actually a better challenger than the likes of Rahman, Briggs , Tua , Botha , Morrison , Bruno, Ruddock or Golota )...Speaking of Rahman , like i said earlier...Lewis did lose against him too.

And if that version of Rahman was too dangerous or impossible to beat...if lewis' rematch victory was a phenomenal achievement than what about Maskaev's 2 victories against the same guy ? (in 1999 & 2006)..

It seems to me that there's inconsistencies about Klitschko's critics.

Anything he does is ****...he himself is ****...but when you take a closer look at the detractor's arguments...It seems to be more of a matter of personal opinion. Not proven fact.

And this also goes for the Klitschkos nuthuggers...The guy is far from being perfect. Let's not forget that he , (like Lewis , Tyson , Foreman , Holyfield)..also had his share of ups and downs...Losing against the likes of Brewster , Sanders & Puritty.