Haye Vs Mormeck - Who wins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sizzle, Oct 24, 2007.


  1. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    I've been thinking Haye looks excellent value at 2/1

    I've watched Mormeck fight twice Vs Bell 1 and Vs Gurov (haven't been able to get my hands on his most recent fight though!) and I've seen Haye Vs Bonin, Gurov, and that Italian fighter that was incredibly tough whose name escapes me as I type this.

    Anyway from my obersvations of these particular fights, (and having read up on Hayes stoppage loss) I feel as though, as long as Haye has sorted out his stamina issues, he should be able to stop or at least outpoint Mormeck.

    The way I see it, neither fighter is particularly gifted when it comes to their defense, and although Hayes chin is questionable, he should be able to keep his relatively stationery target on the outside with his reach, speed, and tendency to control the pace of the fight.

    I think he has the edge in power, and throws sharper punches. I wouldn't be surprised to see him stop Mormeck. My "weighting" of these fighters chances would be 70/30 for Haye, baring in mind Mormeck has power and the ability to turn the fight around with a clean punch.

    What does ESB think?
     
  2. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    I agree incidentally.

    How bout the fight? ;)
     
  3. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    Haye's stoppage loss isn't a very good indicator of his chin/stamina/defence as he was a 12 fight rookie vs a 40+ fight veteran who was admittadly past his best but was still a former cruiser weight champion with a punch that could dent bricks and Haye blew his load early. Bad tactics.

    Mormeck looked gassed as hell in his last two outings with Bell in the later rounds so if anything we can say his stamina is shaky. Plus he got knocked out against Bell but I don't think we can question his chin as Bell is a big puncher.

    There are still question marks about Haye's stamina because he's never had to go down the stretch. He's done it once, but it was not much more than a glorified sparring session. His last fight was at heavy and he's coming back down for this and admits he won't be at his best. Haye's accuracy and power are however frightening and Mormeck's defence is not exactly impregnable.

    My brain says that Mormeck is going to outwork and hustle Haye but my gut says Haye's gonna blast Mormeck away...

    Still undecided
     
  4. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Mormeck in some respects has similair weaknesses to Haye in that he is very strong early on, but his pace slows towards the end, ala bell 1, and to a lesser extent bell 2, though he was able to outbox bell in the later rounds in that fight. I really don't know to be honest, I can't see Haye blasting him out early tbh, but then I dont really envisage a late stoppage for Mormeck either. I think it will come to a decision win, and am favouring Haye 55 - 45. Pick em fight though.

    I think Haye's best tactics would be to try and overwhelm him in the early rounds, and if he cant get the KO, take his foot off the gas and try and outbox him, then going for the KO again when Bell tires late on - if he still has any energy himself.
     
  5. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm hoping Mormeck. Nothing against Haye, I just like Mormeck, so it's personal.
     
  6. luke1983

    luke1983 New Member Full Member

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    Where the **** you get 2/1 dude???

    Last time i looked they were both 5/6???
     
  7. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    Haye. Mormeck's a little battle-torn.
     
  8. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Yeh, where you get 2/1?????????

    I want a piece of that betting action with my money.
     
  9. luke1983

    luke1983 New Member Full Member

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    I think that dude dreamt that price, i just went www.oddschecker.com whoch has every bookmaker going best price you can get is 11/10, talking out of his **** hole mate.
     
  10. The Boogie Man

    The Boogie Man Augustus forever! Full Member

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    I think Haye might be in troube, given the fact he finds it hard to boil down to 200. Its been quite a while now since he's last had to make the weight. Thats gonna mess with his stamina... Which at present, is flakey at best.

    Mind you, isn't it said that Mormeck is an 8 round fighter.... :think

    I think we'll see plenty shifts in momentum. Who ever eeks out the UD (no KO for me, i see nothing being sustained or effective enough) it will be close.



    As a fan ill say Haye by a round :p
     
  11. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    Nice avatar there, Boogie Man. A glimpse of December?:hey
     
  12. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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  13. valdosta

    valdosta Member Full Member

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    2.00 means you only get $1 for every $1 you btet. It's not the same as 2/1.
     
  14. Loggo

    Loggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As Haye went up to heavyweight to fight Tonasz Bonin 12th rated wbc with only one loss and he sparked him in one round surely he fancies his chances in knocking over Mormeck in at least 3 to 4 rounds.I think Haye will stop him halfway definately.
     
  15. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    You get 2 dollars for every one dollar you bet (Hence him being 2 to 1 as displayed on sportstab). 1 dollar for every one dollar bet would leave you betting 100 dollars to receive 100 if you win, which represents no return and obviously doesn't make sense.