Who beats a prime Roy Jones Jr ?

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  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Forgot Mccellan he was basically on Par with Jones in their fights in the Amatuers. He would have a shot.

    No SPinks or Foster? Id bet the ranch on them they match up very well with Jones.
     
  2. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calm down beaner. Floyd Patterson often weighed inside the LHW limit for his fights, he often weighed below the LHW limit also. Holyfield is the best talent to ever fight at this weight and one of the only guys i'd pick against Jones. Floyd Patterson had the extreme speed and power to be very dangerous against the elusive Jones and keep up with him
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, of course ... nice argument. Everytime somebody disagrees with you he "is in denial".

    Talent means nothing when you don´t prove it. Jones didn´t prove it enough to hang in with the best IMO. You don´t need to agree with me though.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    I don't rate Spinks/Foster as highly most on here. Foster gives up his height and likes to look for the left hook, Jones is the much better left hooker, so that takes away Fosters best weapon. Fosters footwork and defense will make it pretty easy for Jones to hit him at will while outmanouvering him. Foster looks great on KO highlight reels

    Spinks is tougher because of quality footwrk/movement and ring craft. Im not a fan of his herky jerky style or his punch technique. I really think Jones massive advantages in speed of hand and foot would see him win a comfortable devision against Spinks

    I'm pretty much known as an RJJ nuthugger on here, but I genuinely believe his ability is the best ever over these weight classes

    I think the best way to get to Jones is with a well timed consistant jab, good use of range (ie being taller would help), and fast compact punches. Thats why I thought GMAN could pose problems, but then again GMANs defense is pretty poor and Jones would hit him at will if he couldnt impose his will. Nunn would be a tough style for Jones but I dont see Nunn actually winning. Tunney would also pose poblems
     
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    Eh, don't bracket Wonjongkam as a Kameda-esque cult.

    He's not bad:deal
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Bob Foster would DECIMATE Jones. How far out of range would Jones have to be to avoid Fosters jab? He wouldn't get much going himself, and if he tried Foster would time him and take his head off.

    Foster would jab long, THEN step in and let the bombs go. He could throw wild looping hooks from afar that would allow him to get in closer, I see no way that Roy can avoid a fighter like Foster for the whole fight.
     
  7. Boxed Ears

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    He's not bad at all...and he deserves it more than Kameda. Come on Flea...let this man have his dues!
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    Jones use of range is great, how many managed to land jabs on him cleanly and regularly? Griffin had some success but was ultimately losing, and we saw what happened in the rematch. Fosters use of range and timing is nowhere near as good as Jones, so no chance of him timing anything. As for jabbing long - Foster wasnt particularly adept at this, he gave up his height when he jabbed making him very hittable. Jones can throw a hook faster than Foster can throw a jab FFS

    Why dont you just pick Maxim over him too :lol:
     
  9. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::roll::patsch

    Well here it goes. Your a respected poster and present something interesting here. Let's not dodge the fact that Calzaghe is prone to being dropped. If he is in this fight like he was in the real one, Jones will jump all over him and stop him; he was one of the best finishers ever.

    Calzaghe presents no stylistic advantage over Jones. Jones has the edge in just about everything. Whatever Calzaghe can do, Jones can do it 10x better except for flailing his hands 1000 times a fight.
     
  10. bodhi

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    Well, Jones advantage in speed wouldn´t big in here, even so he would have one. I think Calzaghe´s boxer-swarmer style and awkwardness would pose problems for Jones. So would his workrate and adepting. Of course Jones would very well be able to beat Joe C., no doubt about that.
     
  11. Hookie

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    First of all, a prime well prepared Jones gives any fighter he faces (under HW) trouble. Who "could" beat him?

    I'm not saying all of these guys would definately beat him, but these men would have decent chances-

    MW-

    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Marvin Hagler
    Thomas Hearns
    Mike McCallum

    SMW-

    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Stanley Ketchel
    Thomas Hearns
    Nigel Benn

    LHW-

    Ezzard Charles
    Michael Spinks
    Archie Moore
    Bob Foster
    Harold Johnson
    Dwight Qawi
    Thomas Hearns
    Michael Moorer
    Michael Nunn
    Dariusz Michalczewski
    Henry Maske

    CW... He never fought at CW but he was dominate at LHW and he won a World Title Belt at HW so he could have fought at CW.

    CW-

    Evander Holyfield
    David Haye

    HW-

    Jack Johnson
    Jack Dempsey
    Gene Tunney
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Chris Byrd
    Tomasz Adamek
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    :blood
     
  13. Boxed Ears

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    Jerry Halstead, anywhere from SMW to HW. Simply too good and too much for ol' Roy.

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  14. OBCboxer

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    Yes, the speed is a big difference, Jones couples speed with power. Calzaghe puts little power behind his punches, that's the difference. His swarmer style would lead him into trouble as his defense is below-average. His workrate would also leave him open and that's a no-no against RJJ. He won't be able to adapt very well on the floor.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    Jones covers a laod of distance with his punches too. Still Calzaghe is far from the worst pick by Bodhi, at least he isnt a plodder with a poor defense like some of his other picks