kessler-Calzaghe COMPLETE ANALYSIS: breaking a complex problem down into smaller part

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  1. bodhidarma

    bodhidarma Member Full Member

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    Only a couple days until the fight and I still can't pick the winner.:patsch
    Here is my suggestion: a micro-analysis:good . Analysis :huh means literally to break a complex problem down into smaller, more manageable "independent" parts for the purposes of
    examination — with the hope that solving these smaller parts will lead to a solution of the more complex problem as well. - Wikipedia :deal

    Its Easy then, here is my try, feel free to add/remove/correct:

    GENERAL:
    • MK Power
    • JC Speed moving
    • JC Hand Speed
    • JC WorkRate / Number of punches per round
    • JC Stamina / Endurance / Fitness
    • JC Heart
    • D Chin
    • D Boxing IQ
    • MK Consistency
    • MK Accuracy
    • MK Timing
    • JC Agility
    • JC Balance
    • JC Angles
    • MK Strongness
    • MK Anticipation
    • MK Ring generalship
    • JC Killer instinc
    • JC Style Complexity
    OFFENSE PUNCHES:
    • MK Jab
    • MK Straight right hand
    • MK 1-2
    • JC Hook
    • JC Uppercut
    • JC Combinaison
    • JC Variety of punches
    DEFENSE:
    • MK Slipping
    • JC Bobbing
    • MK Blocking with arms
    • MK Covering up
    • JC Clinching
    • JC Footwork
    • MK Pulling away
    MENSURATION:
    • MK Reach
    • JC Height
    OTHERS:
    • MK Making the weight
    • JC Tactics / Strategy before the fight
    • D Tactics / Strategy during the fight
    • JC Corner
    • MK Chance of injuries during the fight
    • JC Judges
    • JC Hometown
    • JC Mental / Stress
    D is for draw.
    So according to my chart its: MK 17, JC 23.
    Not even close ! We have a new winner: Joe "the welsh man" Calzaghe !!!:happy :happy :happy

    What is your score ?
     
    bodhidarma, Oct 24, 2007
    bodhidarma, Oct 24, 2007
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    age is also a factor

    I put my money on Kessler and would be surprised to see him lose but hey I've been wrong before.
     
    PH|LLA, Oct 24, 2007
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  3. Peter S. A.

    Peter S. A. New Member Full Member

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    Go Kessler.

    I am getting more and more convinced for Kessler to win.
     
    Peter S. A., Oct 24, 2007
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  4. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    • Chin - MK untested, JC proven - draw is pure speculation
    • Boxing IQ - again MK has always looked good due to all his opponents being vastly inferior to him. JC sets problems to which he'll have to think for the first time
    • Consistency - JC has consistently won all his 43 fights, roughly half of which were championship bouts, a draw at least, is fair
    • Ability to deliver a one punch KO: MK
    • I'd put another category in: body shots - MK
    • On the ropes: Again, Kessler has never really been there
    Whatever

    Can we sub-breakdown the intangibles as well please?
     
    PrideOfWales, Oct 24, 2007
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  5. crashzzz

    crashzzz Bergeron Avatar Club Full Member

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    I've got it at 27 Joe Calzaghe against 10 for Mikkel Kessler.

    Overall, Calzaghe will be buzzing around the stationnary Kessler stinging him from all angles for a clear majority decision...
     
    crashzzz, Oct 25, 2007
    crashzzz, Oct 25, 2007
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  6. bodhidarma

    bodhidarma Member Full Member

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    Ok, I change my mind on a couple of points:

    GENERAL:
    • MK Power
    • JC Speed moving
    • JC Hand Speed
    • JC WorkRate / Number of punches per round
    • JC Stamina / Endurance / Fitness
    • JC Heart
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      Consistency to score points during the fight
    • MK Accuracy
    • MK Timing
    • JC Agility
    • JC Balance
    • JC Angles
    • MK Strongness
    • MK Anticipation
    • MK Ring generalship
    • JC Killer instinc
    • JC Style Complexity
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    OFFENSE PUNCHES:
    • MK Jab
    • MK Straight right hand
    • MK 1-2
    • JC Hook
    • JC Uppercut
    • JC Combinaison
    • JC Variety of punches
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    DEFENSE:
    • MK Slipping
    • JC Bobbing
    • MK Blocking with arms
    • MK Covering up
    • JC Clinching
    • JC Footwork
    • MK Pulling away
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      Tactics / Strategy before the fight
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    • MK Chance of injuries during the fight
    • JC Judges
    • JC Hometown
    • JC Mental / Stress
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    bodhidarma, Oct 25, 2007
    bodhidarma, Oct 25, 2007
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  7. bodhidarma

    bodhidarma Member Full Member

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    Hehe me too, see ya at the Champs on nov 3 rd buddy ! :good
     
    bodhidarma, Oct 25, 2007
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  8. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    GENERAL:
    • MK Power
    • JC Speed moving
    • JC Hand Speed
    • JC WorkRate / Number of punches per round
    • D Stamina / Endurance / Fitness
    • JC Heart
    • D Chin
    • MK Boxing IQ
    • MK Consistency
    • MK Accuracy
    • MK Timing
    • JC Agility
    • JC Balance
    • JC Angles
    • MK Strongness
    • MK Anticipation
    • MK Ring generalship
    • MK Killer instinc
    • JC Style Complexity
    OFFENSE PUNCHES:
    • MK Jab
    • MK Straight right hand
    • MK 1-2
    • D Hook
    • JC Uppercut
    • JC Combination
    • JC Variety of punches
    DEFENSE:
    • MK Slipping
    • JC Bobbing
    • MK Blocking with arms
    • MK Covering up
    • JC Clinching
    • JC Footwork
    • MK Pulling away
    MENSURATION:
    • D Reach
    • DHeight
    OTHERS:
    • MK Making the weight
    • JC Tactics / Strategy before the fight
    • MK Tactics / Strategy during the fight
    • D Corner
    • MK Chance of injuries during the fight
    • JC Judges
    • JC Hometown
    • MK Mental / Stress
    D is for draw.


    20 for Kessler
    17 for Calzaghe

    The draws are based on no CLEAR advantage to the other. But we can argue about some of them.
     
    Astola, Oct 25, 2007
    Astola, Oct 25, 2007
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  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    A few of my notes...



    GENERAL:
    • MK Power
    • JC Speed moving
    • JC Hand Speed
    • JC WorkRate / Number of punches per round
    • JC Stamina / Endurance / Fitness
    • JC Heart
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    • MK Consistency
    • MK Accuracy
    • MK Timing
    • JC Agility
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    • JC Angles
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    • MK Anticipation
    • MK Ring generalship
    • JC Killer instinc
    • JC Style Complexity
    OFFENSE PUNCHES:
    • MK Jab
    • MK Straight right hand
    • MK 1-2
    • JC Hook
    • JC Uppercut
    • JC Combinaison
    • JC Variety of punches
    DEFENSE:
    • MK Slipping
    • JC Bobbing
    • MK Blocking with arms
    • MK Covering up
    • JC Clinching
    • JC Footwork
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    MENSURATION:
    • MK Reach - Calzaghe has 1 inch on him in reach.
    • JC Height
    OTHERS:
    • MK Making the weight - Draw
    • JC Tactics / Strategy before the fight
    • D Tactics / Strategy during the fight
    • JC Corner
    • MK Chance of injuries during the fight
    • JC Judges
    • JC Hometown
    • JC Mental / Stress
     
    Amsterdam, Oct 25, 2007
    Amsterdam, Oct 25, 2007
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