Bhops whole career is smoke & mirrors!

Howard Eastman, William Joppy and Echols were decent wins.

 

This is true but to think he fought Joppy long after Tito destroyed makes u wonder ..:think

 

It is easy to shot on someone's record and spin it in a negative light but BHOP does get a little overratted at times. He has very good achievements but to be honest when ever he faced excellent fighter he is own size he mostly lose e.g prime RJJ, Calzaghe and young and hungry J.Taylor.

 

Hopkins just had the luxary of elite cherry picking ..

 

haha, you're very passionate about this. look, i hate tarver as much as the next guy and agree that he's nothing to write home about. but hopkins moved up and beat the real light heavy champ. now that light heavy champ wasn't that good sure but he was all that there was. still you're right: tarver was absolutely nothing without the rjj win and he was clearly beaten in the first fight when roy was past peak

 

You don't get lucky twice, Tarver stopped Jones and beat him in the rematch. And if you don't like that, what about Tarver beating Glen Johnson, Reggie Johnson, Montell Griffin, and Eric Harding? Hopkins moved up in weight and dismantled him.

But looking at the rest of Hopkins title reign, to say he didn't fight anyone is absurd. Howard Eastman was 40-1 when they fought and was the best European Middleweight at the time, outside of possibly Felix Sturm. Keith Holmes was 36-2 and the WBC champ when Hopkins beat him. Glen Johnson was 32-0 when they fought. Felix Trinidad showed he had power at 160 with his stoppage of Joppy, the WBA champion. William Joppy was the former WBA champion.

So no he didn't fight 20 bums at Champion.

 

You can pick apart anyones record that way and make cases about this person being to small or that person being overrated or whatever but the fact of the matter is Hopkins record has more big name fighters under his W column than almost anyone in his era. The one thing you fail to mention is Hopkins was an underdog in most of the fights you pinpointed and was nearing 40 or over 40 years old when they took place. .

 

why you talk so much ****.you wish you could be one of those guys.the only bum is you .you only dream to be in the ring and have michael buffer introduce you into the ring get a life looser and stop dissin fighters or stop watching boxing you bum

 

All fighters are bums because all challengers are bums. All champs are bumps because they only managed to win decisions over guys who lost to fighters who used to work at Burger King.

 

As a Hopkins supporter, I have to say that some of his career was made of smoke and mirrors. His wins over Trinidad, Echols, Joppy, Johnson were legit, but some of his "biggest" wins weren't great at all. Pavlik was never that good, that obviously wasn't the real Winky Wright in the fight they had, and De La Hoya was too small for the weight as well. I did have him beating Calzaghe and Taylor in the rematch, but I felt he gave away too many rounds in the first fight with Taylor.

Overall he had a good career, just not as good as some people want to believe. Hopkins hasn't been an elite fighter in at least the last 4 to 5 years in my opinion. During that time span, the match making was pretty solid. In his prime, he was great and he was still serviceable against certain opponents at the end. He and Jones should call it a career. Jones should have done this years ago.

 

Did Hopkins ever beat a great fighter not from a lower weight class? Roy's ghost doesn't count.

 

Agree