wlad vs haye if any one can explain

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  1. UK_Fight_Fan

    UK_Fight_Fan Member Full Member

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    Valuev didn't land a single meaniningful shot on Haye the whole 12 rounds.
     
  2. groom

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    I think if haye will fight vt first vit will just bit him up to the oblivion he is kind of sudistic guy who likes to hurt poeple
     
  3. groom

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    Valuev landed few times on haye and he is a slow as an old mule, and haye was all night back pedaling. why some guys think that haye will be any different against guys much faster and much harder hiter than valuev:huh
     
  4. TommyV

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    Of course he landed a few times. Since when has a fighter every landed 0 punches in 12 round fight? The point is Valuev never caught Haye with anything clean. And yes he is slow, but he's caught plenty of other fighters with good shots.

    Haye when he's focused and in the zone defensively can be very sound, he's got a different dimension to the other heavies because he's quick on his feet and has good reflexes. The problem with the Ruiz fight was he got caught with a slashing punch in sparring which caused a cut, he then had to stop sparring.

    Offensively he's as complete as any heavyweight around at the moment so landing his own punches wasn't a problem, but defensively if you aren't sparring, that can be a problem. He was also looking to make a statement and was a bit too offensive orientated at times, hence he got caught more than he would have liked.
     
  5. groom

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    I agree with that now it takes as to original question if valuev was able to land so will klits. now will haye be able to take it this is what i want to know
     
  6. hoot

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    thats not a different dimension to wlad. wlad is also quick on his feet and has great reflexes.
     
  7. groom

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    agree so does vit , but steel no one gave straight answer can hay handle vits pressure or can he take clean shot from vlad and recover vlad did after peter
     
  8. fidds

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    I don't know if he can handle the pressure it depends how hard vitali tugs him from the off:nono

    as for wlad i think he often likes tugging his opponents hard :yep
     
  9. groom

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    some of the heavies said inthe inteview that vit hits less harder than vlad but he said that 80% percent of his punches its not a jub but heavy hits + plus pressure look at areola and peter.
     
  10. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With all vitali's jubbing and tugging im not sure haye will want to turn up :think

    I think maybe your right vitali will use his tugging and pressure and if he fights wlad he will use a lot of hard jubbing to overcome/molest haye

    What you are saing is basicly the klit bros will **** haye easily :yep
     
  11. groom

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    wlad is more tentative but vit likes to brutality, and he likes to mixe it up he might just bring his out put rate each and every roundto see how much can haye take than (well it want be quiting from haye) he will be out cold
     
  12. TommyV

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    Wlad's defense is not based around quick feet and great reflexes - the latter of which he doesn't have. It is based his offense and ring IQ, i.e. his jab and range control/spoiling.
     
  13. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me get this right, surely vitali trying to molest haye with all his tugging would sure result in a d/q win for haye and a vitali would not only be able to box ever again would likely face prison and public humiliation :lol:
     
  14. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i don't think no one is saying the klits won't hurt haye because they can, but what boxing fans are thinking is both haye and wladimir hit hard enough to hurt eachother, the difference is haye is more confortable in throwing the big punches than wladimir. it could be a question who will land the big punch first, so who will you pick, a boxer who takes four rounds to throw a big punch, or a boxer who throws bombs from the first round? haye will probably catch wladimir first just because of this reason alone.
     
  15. kidgloves

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    If Haye stands in front of Wlad and exposes himself, hes just asking for a tug.. What a mess that would be. Im sure Haye could tug a Klit, no matter what size they are.