[VIDEO] Ricardo Mayorga scuffle at mma press conference -funny as hell !!

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  1. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Honest truth here... I'm a huge fan of boxing and I train BJJ and a little bit of Muay Thai, have for several years. Unless Din decides that he's going to 'teach him a lesson' and try to stand and slug with him, Ricardo has next to no chance in this fight. Din will either stand back and kick his knees to powder, or he'll shoot in, take him down and just play with him like he's nothing.

    Hopefully after JT and Ricardo take their beatings, boxers will realize that you can't just cross over to MMA without serious grappling training.
     
  2. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What thanks does he deserve? Kimbo's a decent guy personally, but he got fights he didn't deserve against tomato cans during prime time for prime time money. Kimbo got ****ed up by Rich Gannon long before the UFC came calling. Why didn't Rich Gannon get those fights? Everyone who ever trained knew Kimbo was hype and was going to get ****ed up against even a mid-level MMA fighter, but he was pushed in front of the public like some crazyass super-tough mf'er. Taking away money from fighters that did a lot more in the cage to earn it.

    Also, bringing that racist **** into it, we can just as easily say that once you allow grappling into the mix, black guys are at a disadvantage because they lack the stamina and pain tolerance for ground fighting. Makes about as much as your claim about speed and coordination.
     
  3. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you knew the difference between MMA striking and boxing, then you would know that they're two different animals. Sylvia was stupid to only throw punches with Mercer. MMA strikers square up. If you take a side-on boxing stance, you will get your leg kicked off. If you try to use slipping, rolling, parrying and ducking as defensive moves, you will get KTFO in a hurry either by a knee or by what would be, with gloves on, a harmless glancing shot. With tiny gloves that shot will put you on your ass. In MMA, your boxing defense is moving your feet and getting your chin out of reach PERIOD, unless you're in the process of dropping something yourself.

    Second, strikers wouldn't be so dominant if the current rules of MMA didn't force grapplers to get a submission in two seconds or be stood up. In the days before the forced stand up, grapplers won damn near EVERY fight and they would today too. Even the 'strikers' in the sport have out of their ****ing mind good ground games, someone mentioned BJ Penn already, he's CRAZY good on the ground. Liddell was such an effective striker because it was damn near impossible to take him down. Why? Because of his wrestling skills.

    Would Mayorga and JT win if you were only allowed to punch? Hell yes, they'd look like superstars, but when kicking, clinching, and kneeing enter the mix they're at a HUGE disadvantage unless they train hard to learn how to deal with that.
     
  4. Raybans

    Raybans Pro Gamboa Full Member

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    I don't watch MMA but I really wanna see this fight! Mayorga is one crazy funny ****a! That dude looked like he was being held up after being whacked by Mayorga. I think Mayorga is gonna get choked unconscious in this one though.
     
  5. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man Mayorga ****ED him UP. Thomas looked like a lost girl during that shittalk.
     
  6. rock_lv

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    First, I do know the difference, second, defense is defense. Good all around MMA fighters know that a little boxing will benefit their game. Not because of the how of throwing punches, but they learn angles, speed and offensive without getting hit. I seen fighters that because of their wrestling or jujitsu background do great in the ground but once they stand up, they are lost and confused. No defense or angles, hell they dont even know how to keep their arms up. Now look at Nick diaz, since he started improving on his boxing, his wapon of choice have been the hook to the body. Thats something you never saw before. If you really want to dominate in MMA, you have to be well rounded.
    Now you mentioned slipping, rolling, parrying and ducking will not work, what do you suggest? take the knee or punch to the face? slipping, rolling, parrying and ducking will work if you know what your doing, again if you have a boxers foot work you can still get in and out unless the other guys shoots on you. As far as a knee, well you just as a good chance with an uppercut, if you do it as soon as the clinch happens. I do that sometimes, use the uppercut as an offensive and defensive tool against a knee. Those small gloves dont favor the MMA guy either, and if the guy dont have a good string technique, no matter how small they are, they wont make a difference. Let me put it this way, you take a good boxer, train him in jujitsu for 6 months, teach him to sprawl and he will dominate against an average MMA guy. Now take Anderson Sylva, let him train for six months in boxing and put against an average fighter and let me know what happens.
    A triathlete is a great a what he does, but they will never beat Lance Armstrong at the tour de france, Michael Phelps in the swimming pool or outrun any runner from Kenya.
    Am not saying Ricardo will win, am sure the other guy will spend most of the time on the ground trying to submit Ricardo. Ricardo should not win this fight, he is not even training for it, he is old and out of shape. And even so the guy wont fight him staning up, that says alot. the only way this guy will win is by taking him down. But if Ricardo wins, if I was that guy I would just retire from the sport.
     
  8. boxingscience

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    i thought it was strange that MMA guy seemed hurt which seemed to be such a little blow from mayorga. if that hurt that MMA guy then i'm really worried what would happen if mayorga was to connect with one of his wild hooks.
     
  9. boxingscience

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    that's very true. a boxer basically has a punchers chance over an MMA fighter in MMA rules. a MMA fighter coming to boxing has even less chance than a boxer going over to MMA. both complete different sports with some spending their lives in perfecting. total respect for both, it's just i prefer boxing than MMA.
     
  10. NoHomeJerome

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    these MMA ***gits have ****ing china chins... guy was on ***** street off a back hand rofl
     
  11. PIPO23

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    A BOXER can do damage in MMA. Mayorga can put this kid to sleep with those gloves.
     
  12. BigBone

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    Oh ****, that was intense! :yikes Nobody does it like Mayorga, he totally got under the other guy's skin, dude was super pissed.

    I think that older woman translating the trash talk made it even funnier.
     
  13. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would imagine Mayorga could backhand most guys off their feet. He's ****ing heavy handed as they come, and also have you seen his hands? They're like catcher's mitts. Dudes knuckles are raised like two inches off the back of his hand. Probably hurts like hell if he just goes to shake your hand. One thing is for damn sure: If Din was even considering trying to strike with Ricardo, he's not gonna do it now.

    Hrivera, the FIRST thing they'll tell you when training MMA striking is do NOT duck. If you duck, you eat a knee. If you shoulder roll, you get taken down or the back of your leg kicked when you're basically defenseless. If you try to parry and miss, you're done. The preferred defense is simple distance. There are some guys who use a high, close guard and catch shots on their forearms, but they usually don't do it very long and they don't do it very often, it's extremely dangerous. Diaz doesn't really use a lot of defense in his striking, his defense is his offence. He's fearless, he basically keeps his hands high and wide, gets in your grill and never stops punching. He's a freak. I'm not sure anyone else can get away with his style of doing things.
     
  14. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed on all points.
     
  15. southpaw jab

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    Anderson Silva is the greatest striker in history, excluding nobody.