Is silva getting criticized unfair?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Vitor Belfort, Apr 11, 2010.


  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Eh I'm just gonna stop, I think I'm coming off in a way I'm not intending too :good I was trying to get at the point that it is up to the fans NOT to support the guy, because technically he DOESN'T HAVE to do anymore then is necessary to get the victory. Forget it
     
  2. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he dominated the man........the fight was boring as hell...but his criticism is unfair....GSP's fights are boring as hell too.....just because he rolls on the ground for 25min his **** is justifiable....

    basically u have to fault both fighters....anderson wasnt fighting himself...and damian maia did much less during the fight....

    all of andersons electrifying wins were against fighters who engaged him and attacked...

    maia didnt do **** the whole fight but fall on his back....


    white is singling out anderson because of his talent level which is basically dissing maia by saying he should've kayoed u cuz u suck compared to him....
     
  3. Lynchburg

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    I'm a big Silva fan from back in the Pride days but i lost a lot of respect for him the other day.

    After the fight he said when interviewed by Joe, "I'm sorry... I don't know whst got into me tonight". Then later on at the post-fight press conference he said he had no need to say sorry...

    I was confused by his U-turn in the space of an hour or so?!

    On another note WTF happened to BJ Penn? He didn't even attempt the take down... is this signs of a downward spirral?

    Lynchburg
     
  4. southpaw jab

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    Silva should be released? Yeah, right, LOL.
     
  5. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    My theory on this Silva performance was that it was a direct message to White , stop giving me bull **** opponents basically !!!!!!

    Think about it , he was complaining when the UFC wanted to make Silva Henderson 2 , so what the **** has changed with Maia , he has hinted in the past that he does not like the match making he's getting subjected too , there is no clear #1 contender @85 , he has no problems knocking people over @205 , top contenders , why not give him the big fights @205 until Wanderlei & Belfort have established who's the top contender ???? , and lets be real he smashes either of them two as well .

    Its insane , why do this , i go back to what i was saying , this is a show of defiance against White & the UFC its obvious , i like Dana's reaction but for me he's gone too far again , all this Dana White is the man , look at the way he's standing up to Anderson Silva etc etc etc , **** in the 1st round alone he gave us more excitement and action than GSP Hardy did in the whole 5 , yeah what Silva done after that could be seen as out of order but hell thats fighting , he wasnt complaining when Silva put on a masterclass against Griffin was he , GSP hasnt knocked anybody out or stopped a fight since Serra (Penn's corner retired him) , for me this was Anderson saying to the Dana & Joe Silva you give me a joke of an opponent and ill give you this , i could be wrong but thats my theory .
     
  6. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure it wasn't his translator/manager speaking in the ring rather than Silva himself.
     
  7. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    They say the true character of a man, is whether he exhibits moral and ethical standards as much when nobody is watching, as he does when everybody is watching.

    The general sentiment of that aforementioned concept applies to fighters. Whether or not you're bored or annoyed or whatever, it's your responsibility to give the audience their money's worth.

    Now, that's not to say that Anderson Silva should fight Brock Lesnar and try to out wrestle him - he should fight a smart fight, if the matchup requires it, but it does say that a fighter should exhibit the best elements of what fighting is all about; toughness, tenacity, desire - a willingness to put the fight to the opponent as much as is possible.

    For his continued failures to do that, yes, Anderson Silva has earned the fervent round of criticism he has received the last few days. You can excuse an isolated incident, but this has become a trend and it's unacceptable.
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Why not? This is the UFC. The Ultimate Fighting Championship.

    Hes definitely not Ultimate, He doesnt do any fighting, sure doesnt act like a champion. So whats his story?
     
  9. horst

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    This is the most obscene pile of dog**** I've ever read. The boos would have been every bit as loud for those final, shameful 2 rounds if that fight had been in a boxing ring. I don't know if you've actually watched the fight, but in the final 2 (or even 3) rounds it was not "hit and don't get hit", it was "don't even try to hit, take the **** out of people who have paid money to see this, and don't get hit". I'm genuinely shocked and angry that this thread has been made. There is no excuse whatsoever for how Silva behaved and it would be the exact same if this bull**** was committed in a boxing ring. (see Floyd Mayweather vs Jose Luis Castillo II, the crowd booed Floyd for running in that fight, and he was more active than Silva was on Saturday)

    A good way to illustrate this point for those of you who don't follow the sweet science much is to watch Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez. Then watch Anderson Silva vs Demian Maia. You see, 'hit but don't get hit' does NOT mean refusing to engage in combat or trying to minimize the amount of contact going on. You can hit but not get hit while still being active, and even sporadically aggressive. You can fight on the backfoot, but still throw combinations. It's all about fighting intelligently, not purely being negative or over-cautious or doing the absolute minimum needed to scrape by on a points decision. Pernell Whitaker fights on the backfoot vs Chavez, and he fights with a defensive mindset, but because he wants to prove he is the superior fighter he is still actively trying to win the fight positively by utilizing his own strengths and not merely trying to avoid/evade Chavez and flick out punches to edge the rounds on the cards. He retreats, but he still throws his best punches, still throws them accurately trying to land cleanly, still uses combinations, all done while maintaining an emphasis on defence and safety.

    No-one is saying Silva had to come out swinging like Arturo Gatti, no-one is saying he had to rush into battle like the Wanderlei Silva of old. But there is a way to fight intelligently, fight safely, and fight to his own strengths, without refusing to engage, and without running down the clock. Silva is being paid to fight and he should have the professional pride in his work to want to perform to the best of his ability when he is in the octagon. No-one is slating him for not jumping into the best BJJ practitioner in the game with flying knees and takedown attempts, but he could easily have utilized his superb striking game to convincingly and emphatically win every round. Instead of doing absolutely nothing in the final two rounds, he could've boxed actively, using a fast jab, maybe snapping out the odd lightning fast kick.

    There really is no excuse whatsoever for running the clock down and refusing to lift a finger, there really really isn't.
     
  10. horst

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    He probably does deserve to get the boot, but I sure as hell don't want to see him released before he's had to face a murderous challenge. I'd love to see Silva vs Shogun at 205. Let's see him clown around then.
     
  11. superfly98

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    Im noticing silva is taking alot of the stick for this. But I think alot of it lands in dana's corner. He's the match maker. Maia was obviously WAY out of his class you could tell from round one. He ran for most of it he looked like he was gonna **** bricks each time Silva hit him and when he did throw there was no vemom just scared punches. Why on earth would Dana match this it was a pointless fight. With the way Dana's bitching it looks to me that he's trying to take the heat of himself.
     
  12. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The original plan was silva vs vitor belfort but belfort got injured so maia got the fight. Marquardt and schonen just fought so they weren't ready to take on silva.
     
  13. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was just thinking about gsp-hardy fight also. GSP didn't want no part of hardy stand up game so he kept taking him down and beat him with his wrestling. On the other hand silva didn't want no part of maia's ground game so he kept the fight standing. So basically both fighters kept the fight where their opponent is at their weakest(maia striking-Hardy ground game).
    Silva is getting criticize more cuz of the showboating he was doing during the fight.
     
  14. superfly98

    superfly98 Bull Full Member

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    Interesting if its true what they say about the insults he was throwing during the fight then...he deserves the critism....depending on the the level of gamesmenship
     
  15. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also when GSP took Hardy to the ground he fought Hardy on the ground. As Silva kept the fight standing he did not fight Maia.