In your eyes who won Ali-Frazier III?

Frazier would have won if the fight wasn't stopped. The problem is that he couldn't see by the end of the 14th and that's a very dangerous proposition when you're dealing with a precision puncher like Ali.

 

Ali won,and would have done conclusively had Eddie Futch allowed Frazier out for round 15. Muhammad was ahead on points fairly clearly at this point. Forget about him saying that he wanted to quit. This was little more than a wistful yearning on his part. Both guys were exhausted at the end of the fourteenth,and Futch was wise pulling his man out of there.

 

Yeah, and his vision was bound to improve in the 15th. :yep

 

ali won,the fight was stopped frazier was held back by his corner.pretty conclusive if you ask me,they didn't want joe taken any more punishment

 

This simply isn't true. After the knockdown and before the end of the round, Ali spent much of the time hanging on and getting beaten up. Frazier was still the agressor, and he hit Ali with a vicious left-hook in the middle of the round that made Ali's head pop back. Ali won maybe the last 30 second with a minor flurry.

Look at the clip:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3aUmSBSbY[/ame]

 

Good post.

 

How was Ali ahead?

 

Huh?

 

Because he was winning. And the scorecards were wide. So you're just rambling about nothing?

 

On all three judges' cards for a start. Ali was coming on the stronger of the two in rounds thirteen and fourteen.

 

It was a great fight between two has beens really. Both men were pale facsimilies of their 1971 selves. Both were on the decline for the 3rd bout..Frazier more so than Ali..yet they both fought their best and their fighting hearts cannot be faulted. Ali won of course, both the official, historic verdict of a 14th round tko, and the talk of him "cutting his gloves off" and not answering the bell for the final round was and is hogwash. That's just the bull**** talk that fighters indulge in..more times than not in giving deference to their worthy but beaten opponents. He just had more in his tank at that time than Frazier, whose style wasn't condusive for long term success as a fighter as Ali's was..and add to that the ruinous effect of the Foreman debacle. The only contest the two engaged in where they were at or closest to being at their best was the FOTC in '71, and Frazier, discredited and disparaged in the years since then by the rapacious revisionists and Ali worshippers and fanboys of the boxing world, won that one, to his eternal credit.

 

Read your stupid post (61) and I'm sure it'll sink in.

 

As I've always said,I just wish that both men had called it a day after this fight.

 

The what if of the 15th round is a great question. After the fight was over, Ali fell to the floor in exhaustion, and said this was th closet he had been to death.

I tend to think the 15 round looks a bit like the 14th round in the outcome, but with far less punches throw or landed.

Frazier did not exactly show the right type of body language or energy to change Futch's decision. He was tired too. While his eyes were swollen, I think the urban legend that he could not see at all is over blown.

 

Huh?