Would/Could Valero have been an ATG

Valero may have been a horrible human bieng, but this thread concerns itself with how good he was and could have been as a fighter.

And the answer to that is quite good, with the potential to become excellent. I would say that the fighter who defeated a tough, talented DeMarco was a very good fighter and the progression in skill-set that he displayed from the Mosquera fight that's shown to his last fight was noticible. He displayed better in and out movement and put his shots together a lot better than when he won his first title.

He certainly had his flaws, but he probably wasn't going to be an easy out for anyone at light weight and junior welterweight and probably would have been competitivem anyway against anyone that he was pitted against until his go-for-broke style eventually caught up with him.

 

As an additional note, I think that what angers a lot of people is that they didn't get the chance to see Valero catch the type of beating that he deserved, and having been denied that satisfaction, might be inclined to label him as an "overrated bum". He wasn't an ATG, but the sad fact of the matter is that bums don't win titles in two weight divisions and don't show the talent that he displayed in last fight.

He was a good fighter, and the fact that he was a lousy person shouldn't alter that fact in the slightest.

 

that girl at the start had awesome tittys....................had to be said

 

Its a difficult one to be sure on, he showed ability in the De marco fight to suggest he was a good level fighter, he had good power and speed and showed the ability in the last fight to put his hand together well in combinations and deal with the adversity with the cut he had.

Had he showed ATG ability yet, no he had not, but he was an unfinished article and had some ability. He would have needed to improve massively but we will never know now and he only has himself to blame for that fact

 

I always thought he could have been.

It would have been better to see him come out of rehab 6 months later like planned.

I was hopeful of him.

 

He's no technician and his fundamentals are abominable, but he had the raw talent to becoming something very special, IMO. Like a young Manny Pacquiao. He has power, speed, excellent reflexes, a chin, high work-rate and a lot of heart. He actually does have some subtle defensive skills that people aren't giving him credit for. His foot-speed is astonishing, and he can back off from an advancing opponent and make them fall short at the blink of an eye; it's almost as effortless to him as slipping a punch. He also presents a tricky stylistic package, simply because he throws so many fast punches he's hard to counter or box. You'd need a really A-level opponent to exploit his bad habits and box him effectively without being overwhelmed, or an equally tough/strong brawler.

So yes, he could have become an ATG I think. It's impossible to say whether he would or not, as he'd have to gain experience and start to either iron out his technical deficiencies or just become a bit more educated at enforcing the wild style that he does on an opponent.

 

fighting in america would have forced him to clean up his ****ing act.

how was he suppose to pass tests before a fight with his extracurricular habits?

 

Seriously? Ugh, this question was predicted when Valero passed.

Think about it. Valero was as good as he could be when he passed. His record is the only reason you think he could have been better. Break it all down for yourself. Honestly, someone was bound to beat Valero.