Al Bernstein's scorecard for Whitaker-Chavez: 118-110 Whitaker

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez winning rounds 1 and 5. Whitaker winning the rest.

    Is it defendable? Discuss :D









































    Sorry for the troll....but hey, it's the general forum :good
     
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  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Not a bad scorecard. I scored it either 9-3 or 8-4 for Whitaker. Either way, it's clear that he should have won the decision.
     
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  3. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    i'll log off right now see you when your on. :hi: :bolt
     
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  4. Kegsy

    Kegsy Lights Out Full Member

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    I had whitaker by about 8 round to 4 if my memory serves me correct.
     
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  5. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Draw for me. The fight wasn't even that good anyways.
     
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  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Where did you hear or read of Al Bernstein having it that wide.

    I dont always agree with Bernstein, but I've always found him to be pretty honest in his assesments.

    Poor Al must have had on off night that night, or must have seen the fight and judged it under the influence!:D

    Beside his scorecard, I'd love to read more on Bernsteins take on the fight!
     
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  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just received an ESPN copy of the fight the other day, with commentary by Al Bernstein and Barry Tompkins. Bernstein is giving his round by round as the fight goes. I'm not sure what year it was filmed in, but I'm guessing it was around the mid-90's.

    Bernstein called it the worst robbery in a major fight from the last 20 years (from I guess 1995 or so when the fight was being called).

    With his card he was saying that a case could be made for Chavez winning the 2nd round (as well as the 1st and 5th which he gave to Chavez) but that the other rounds were all pretty clear in Whitaker's favour.

    If you'd like a copy Vlade, give us a pm and perhaps I could send it to you :good
     
    sweet_scientist, Oct 29, 2007
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  8. George W Hedge

    George W Hedge Member Full Member

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    Chavez is 1 of my all time fav fighters but your crazy if you thought he won that fight.

    There was a lot of close rds but even if you give jc all the close rds (which is really unfair) the best he gets is a draw.

    The rds that julio won where by a narrow margin where as whitaker won a few clear cut rds.... in fact rds 3, 7 & 8 where pretty terrible rds for chavez, pernell dominated them rds where as jc never had 1 dominating rd.

    Whitaker won the fight but both at their peaks would be much closer IMO, in fact I may even lean julio`s way in a 15 rder but flip a coin for a 12 rder.

    :good
     
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  9. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I had it Whitaker 116-112.

    While it was a bad decision, it wasn't as bad as a lot of others I have seen.

    Chavez won his rounds by much smaller margins. The rounds he won (or ones that you could give him) were closer, while Pea clearly won more of his rounds.

    Although I thought Whitaker won, it doesn't compare with some of the terrible decisions that have occurred like Holyfield-Lewis I, Augustus-Burton, Escalera-Everett, etc...
     
    Thread Stealer, Oct 29, 2007
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  10. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH 116-112 you cant win fights just by making the guy miss here and there.
     
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  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right, very true. Whitaker landed more and threw more as well.
     
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  12. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    9-3 or 8-4 whitaker is about right.

    chavez wins 10 and 12 as well i think it is.

    i gave rd 1 to whitaker.
     
    hitman_hatton1, Oct 29, 2007
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  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Whitaker was CLEARLY winning that fight. Chavez made a complete fool out of his self when he said in his book that he "clearly" won that fight and "it wasn't even close".
     
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  14. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Chavez was always a poor loser. Remember him flipping out on Merchant after his second fight with Oscar
     
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  15. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Remember him after the Randall loss too?

    It must be hard to win all those fights and then learn to accept losing.
     
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