Mosley was outboxed by Cotto and Forest

Forrest isn't really comparable since he was a lot bigger and more powerful than Floyd... different fighter completely.

It is a problem for Mosley that he was basically outboxed by Cotto. That's one of the main reasons I think Mayweather will outbox Mosley with relative ease.

 

that cotto fight was pretty close. cant rly say who outboxed who

 

Forrest is an A class fighter who didn't only have Mosley's number, but had reach, power, speed, chin and serious skills. Mosley tried twice and clearly fell short, there is nothing he could have done to change results in that fight.

The Cotto fight, however, he fought a completely wrong style. He waited too long and allowed Cotto to get into his rhythm and fight from the outside slowly out-boxing him and not giving him the distance he needs to land his punches with the snap he needs to. When he fought aggressive, sadly he decided to late, he had Cotto in serious trouble but still didn't follow up as he should have. The Cotto fight was a close one, it wasn't a clear loss like the Forrest or Wright losses. A rematch with Cotto would have probably been a different result IF he decided to use his aggressive style and pressure to win it which he surely has and can. I picked Mosley to win that one expecting him to fight aggressive, sadly he went in there trying to box almost the entire night even when he was losing. He clearly could have taken his punches I have no idea why he insisted on waiting.

Anyway, Mayweather's style doesn't match Forrest's or Cotto's, this is a completely different fighter with a different style so no one knows Mosley's chances till we see the actual fight. We all know both guys can adapt, both can go aggressive if they're forced to and both can fight defensive if they're forced to and successful at, that's what makes it interesting. We all know that Mosley punches hard too and WILL land, don't forget that Marquez and Hatton both landed good solid punches on Mayweather, if they can then Mosley sure as hell can too.

 

First time I saw it I thought Mosley won, but the more I saw it was clear Cotto won that fight. A close but clear UD.

 

I like how Floyd fan boys say that because Mosley lost to Forrest, Wright, and Cotto he has no chance against Mayweather. Mayweather never beat anyone of those guys calibre, all of whom were in their prime when Mosley fought them. If Mayweather beats Mosley, and that seems like the prevailing wisdom. It has a lot more to do with Mosley's age and inactivity than it does his inability to cope with Forrest, Cotto (whom many felt Mosley beat), and Wright. All of whom are bigger, stronger, and harder hitting than Mayweather.

 

and don't forget 2nd De La Hoya fight... Shane had no answers for Forrest's jab and straight right...I'd slightly favor Forrest over Floyd in any case.

Cotto(much like De La Hoya) really outboxed him for the first half of the fight. He came on strong in the end though. I'm sure his learned from those fights... and i hope he doesn't start slow against Mayweather.

 

yes absolutely

 

That is the same way I saw it....

The night I watched it I recorded it and thought for sure Mosley had the fight in the end...

I went out and got drunk, then watched it the next morning and actually scored it round for round and had Cotto 115-114 I think, I am not sure exactly but I remember having Cotto up by one point in the end.

If it was a 15 round fight I have the feeling Mosley would have taken it.

 

However you don't add footwork into the equation. His jab may not be as solid, but his footwork is better. Also his "twitch" is much faster. He may not stop forward momentum as often as a Cotto or Forrest, but he will be able to jab, realize, and move better than either of those guys.

Still Mosley is a game guy and this will be a great fight.

 

I don't think Winky (size, defense, jab) or Forrest (size, length) really apply.

I do think that the Cotto fight is a GREAT gauge though. Similar dimension, but Mayweather is better in almost all areas that gave Cotto the win, speed, footwork, timing. Also in the areas that almost cost him the fight, stamina.

Cotto may have a stiffer jab, but I don't think that is enough to make his performance better than Mayweather's. Mayweather will just box him to a UD.

 

Shane is just gonna have to hit Mayweather wherever he can and whenever he can... If he gets him up against the ropes, he needs to punch him in the hips if that is all that is open (not low of course), to try and slow Mayweather down a bit, then try for a big shot upstairs.

Oscar did well at times when May was up against the ropes, he is a few years older now, maybe he wont handle it as well.

 

very true man but styles make fights though i just hope its not boring

 

A) I had the Mosley-Cotto fight as a draw, possibly a victory.

B) Forrest(R.I.P.) was a freak of nature at 147 and fights nothing like Mayweather.


Using your reasoning...

Castillo firmly outboxed Mayweather...

Hatton was VERY competitive until the K.O.

Therefore, Mosley will destroy Mayweather...:huh

Bottomline:

It's going to be an excellent fight with so many variables that it's really difficult for me to predict who'll win. Mosley has never fought anyone quite like Mayweather and Mayweather has definitely not fought anyone like Mosley.

 

i would agree; thinking about it, he has more of hearn's flicker jab than holmes sledgehammer. it's fast, distracting and hard to predict. still for mosley, i think he needs to put more into it and use the jab to impede him

 

Mayweather brings his own attributes to this fight but he doesn't bring the same attributes that Cotto, Winky, and Forrest brought. He possesses neither the size nor power of the those three but he is more of a sharp shooter and quick slickster than them as well. His advantages lie in him having space away from the ropes to force mistakes that open up counter opportunities by using his quick feet and sharp eyes. Because of his smaller physicality though, Mosley has more of a chance to impose himself on him when he feels the need.

I said it before but if Mosley gets outclassed and outboxed in onesided fashion by mayweather who holds no physical advantages over him, then it speaks much for what he lost with age. A fighter like Mayweather makes fighters pay for not having the speed/reflexes to deal with him or if they lost what they needed to compete with him.