For The 2nd Time In Less Than A Week, Tim Smith Lies About Manny Pacquiao

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by paulfv, May 3, 2010.


  1. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is Pac cheating on his wife with you? I mean, you are so far up this guy's ass, it's nearly unbelievable.

    It's obvious to anyone with a functioning brain: Pac left $40 million on the table, because he wouldn't adhere to the testing guidelines set forth by Mayweather.

    Pac made stupid remarks about how drawing blood so close to a fight would drain him of energy (complete bull****), and when he received pressure on the PED issue, filed an unsubstantiated lawsuit.

    Whether he uses PEDs or not is up for debate. Whether he ducked the Mayweather fight or not, is not up for debate. It's obvious.

    I pity how dilusional someone can be.

    I'm not a Mayweather fan, but I understand a strategy. He's a business man. Pac let the biggest pay day of his career, and ONLY massive pay day available (Mayweather still has a couple of fights out there that could earn him $30-40 million), and biggest fight in boxing pass him by because he dodged a drug test.

    And say what you want about Mayweather... he might be full of **** most of the time, but he is not dodging Pac.
     
  2. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    HEY you, BIG BUFF, TOUGH TALKING, KEYBOARD WARRIOR... I like big, strong guys like you! Hey, just curious, what's a big, tough guy like you going to do to Mr. Smith?? I mean, it DID LOOK like u were threathening/menacing him with some kind of action if he keeps on calling out pacquiao's outlandish excuses, right?? Plz oh plzzzzzzz don't keep us on the dark and let us (Tough Boyz Fan Club) know what ur actions r gonna be, sweetieeeeeeeee! puuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:hippy
     
  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it's not obvious except to those who either want to be fooled or don't understand logic. That's the entire point of the thread, and the previous thread.

    Your emotional outbursts and unimportant assertions about what is and is not "obvious" mean nothing. Much as Smith's "dirty testing" email(s) meant nothing.

    That's why facts and logic exists. To counter fools and fanboys.

    Thanks for helping make the point, Ace. :good
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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  5. afromagus

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    Floyd made unreasonable demands, and ran off when pac countered.

    Fact: No basis apart from suspicion and speculation to accuse pac of taking PEDS

    Fact: Olympic style testing is NOT mandatory, and pac still agreed to it.

    Fact: Floyd made no counter when pac offered 20 days to his 14 days.

    Fact: Floyd ducked.
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You been looking at my pics or something? How'd you know I was big and buff?

    On second thought, don't answer that. I don't want to know.

    I would love -- LOVE -- to get Smith in a ring and beat the living sh*t out of him in a (perfectly legal and ultimately non-harmful [I don't condone illegal violence or bullying]) sparring session. That would be fun, and he more than has it coming for what he's done to Pacquiao's reputation. But, as Smith is a fat older dude, it ain't going to happen.

    So, we instead will just take his lies and half-truths and expose them as often as he keeps repeating them.

    That's the civilized thing to do, and that's how journalism and investigative journalism usually goes. Welcome to that world.
     
  7. CharlieGarbs

    CharlieGarbs Guest

    It's concerning how far your willing to go to prove everyone wrong about Pacquiao. Leave it bro, just leave it.
     
  8. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What peds are they and where and when has it been proven?
     
  9. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your business is pontification. Mine is making a living negotiating extremely large financial transactions.

    As a business matter, it's obvious. Pac has always marketed himself as fighting the best there is, sometimes multiple times.

    The best available was Mayweather. The most lucrative fight was Mayweather. The weight Pac is fighting at was the same as Mayweather's. The money was negotiated and agreed upon with Mayweather.

    The only thing missing was the drug testing. Pac admitted the reason the fight couldn't be made. When asked why he wouldn't adhere to the drug testing demands, Pac's answers lacked common sense.

    It was essentially chalked up to him being afraid of needles, being physically drained, etc, all of which are utter bull****.

    Pac is cut frequently. Much of the time, cuts require stitches. To be stitched up, you get a needle to numb the area, and then a needle to actually stitch you. Hmmm...Pac isn't too afraid of needles to get stitched, is he?

    And with Mayweather following the same guidelines, Manny cannot claim he would be drained. They aren't donating blood, and then attempting to train right after... They are giving a sample of blood, 14 days prior to a fight, and then continuing their preparation. Pac once again gave a baseless excuse.

    Why don't you explain (in your LOGICAL manner) why Pac would walk away from this fight? And also offer some explanations that don't include him fearing a drug test and/or fearing Mayweather. Because to me, there doesn't seem to be any...
     
  10. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    explain why floyd is walking away from this fight over a drug test what is he so worried will happen if pac doesnt do it. He has no chin thats why.
     
  11. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd has other fights where he can make 20,30, or 40 million. He can fight Williams, Martinez, wait for Cotto, even Margarito, etc.

    I'm not sure if Floyd is merely using the test as a business ploy, or as a legitimate way to see if the sport is clean (I surmise a little of both, more the former than the latter). Either way, he's the man in control.

    He was willing to give Pac 50% of the money (which on sheer drawing power in his last few bouts, he does not deserve), and Pac still wouldn't take the needle.

    Point is, Pac is full of **** with his "draining" excuse. Taking a blood test doesn't drain you. There is no medical basis for his assertion.

    So, either Pac is scared, has something to hide, or trying to play a business game to build up the fight.

    Here's the major problem: Floyd has always claimed to be a business man. Pac has always been the guy claiming he'd fight the best, anywhere we could find them. Floyd is the best, and Pac won't fight him.
     
  12. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then,the 14 day cut-off period Floyd's demanding is useless.:patsch