I agree....VERY UNCHARACTERISTIC! For both men. Shane was expecting to chase Floyd for 12 rounds and when that didn't happen you see a very different shane...one that was jittery and looked unsure of himself. Floyd did what he needed to do and got the win in easy fashion. I thought Shane would have done well for 4 or 5 rounds until Floyd adjusted to the speed and rhythm. Of course Shane never found his rhythm and if not for his speed and power round 2 would have been Floyds round as well.
exactly..as for mayweather, his aggresive style would not do well against pac. Pac would love to fight that version of him rather than the old one.
I don't think there is any doubts that pacquiao will land more on mayweather than he ever has before, this fight is the ultimate test for both of them. How will manny react to being in with a fighter that is able to match him for handspeed. Will he be able to leap in with his slashing machine gun like combinations as easily as he has been able to do so in the past against a counter puncher as good as mayweather, espicially one with the reach advantage he has. His output and work-rate seemed to drop off a little against marquez because he was taking so many counterpunches, will the same happen against mayweather and he begins to get nervous and therefore lose one of his major weapons, his workrate. Also even in the clottey fight pac seemed to take a lot of straight right hands, mayweather got the best in the business. As for mayweather how is he going to deal with the southpaw stance, a fighter that can match his footspeed and handspeed, one without the mental weakness of judah and has the ability to adapt. Also in the clottey fight manny was body punching in a way he never has before, roach's influence no doubt, i think this is roach plan to try and break mayweather defence down slightly. Castillo troubled him a lot this way, can manny do the sae The fight for me is close to 50/50, thats why it needs to happen, i think anyone on either side that thinks this is an easy night for either fighter is kidding themselves on. A true mega fight that needs to happen and the winner becomes truly immortal in the sport. (Rambled on a bit there, only really meant to agree with your point that manny lands on mayweather more than anyone else has ever done)
Exactly! Floyd can't fight Manny the way he fought Shane and expect to increase his chances of winning. The old style of working his lead rights and jab to the body and head to control range would be to his benefit against PAC. Without a doubt PAC has a challenge in Floyd....his greatest challenge to date, but for those who think Floyd is gonna have an easy night if he signs to face PAC are in for a BIG surprise. This will be both Manny's and Floyd's hardest challenge without a doubt. And again....I favor PAC.
Wasn't Corley significantly heavier than Floyd that night?? I think that coupled (yes, second time I've used that) with him being a strong puncher would give any fighter "trouble". But I would agree with you that the evidence you present leans towards Pac having the stronger chin.
Pac would give floyd a lot of problems if he decided to go toe to toe with him.The only way floyd will win against pac is by points. Floyd will counterpunch more than he should because its just too much risk on his side.all it takes for pacquiao to win is to land one good left to mayweathers chin and the rest would follow
You are not a top-level athlete working on strung-out limits, neither am I. These guys are conditioned to perfection, it's not like a lb is easy to come by. If it was, why would guys weigh sometimes a lb over the limit and not take it off before? And the question is, if it genuinely made no difference, why would they ask Cotto to come in at 145 and risk these sort of accusations that Cotto may not have been in top-condition, rather than fight him at '47? Perhaps you should read more into Roach & Pacquiao's train of though when scheduling fights: Roach: "Shane came to my gym twice to negotiate the fight with me. I said Shane can you make 142 or 143, he says no, I say "Okay there's no fight", he says "You fought Oscar at 147", I says "You're not Oscar." Interviewer: "What did you mean by that?" Roach: "He's better than Oscar, I mean why should I give him the advantage?"
pacs chin was tested already against marquez and morales.his 2 knock outs came from a body shots.as for mayweather, we hardly see him get hit on the chin so its all theoritical.the best hit that landed on him was Judah's left and he almost fell down.
Ok, I am not taking sides in the Floyd vs Pac debate, but Manny took some hard shots from Cotto and didn't flinch.
Whilst i agree with what your saying and the fight should have been at 147 do you genuinly think that the weight affected cotto in the fight? He seemed fine with it and performed well i thought
The difference here is I am sure Pac weighed more fight night than both of them (speculation) Judahs punch wasn't flush.
This is not the first time Mosley has looked winded and discouraged when he can't throw and land consistently. Just because Mayweather made him look like that doesn't mean Pac would. Mosley would still look great if the right style was presented for him.
He looked the same way in his rematch with Vernon which indicates that Shane is great when he has his confidence. When he is 2nd guessing himself and not confident you see him struggle. Floyd took his confidence in round 1! Maybe before in the build up to the fight.