i think roach is wrong.

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  1. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lately since the mosley fight you've been hearing roach talk about mayweather's legs saying floyd can't move, which is why he fought flat footed against mosley. personally i think floyd chose to fight that way to prove a point to mosley that i'll beat you coming forward aswell as going on the backfoot.

    yes floyd got caught, yes he got hurt, but this is boxing, and this happens, and what roach is forgetting is how quick mayweather recovered. roach can go on about how pacquiao wouldn't let floyd get away the way mosley did, but what roach needs to look at is how floyd smothered mosley after he got hurt, and didn't give mosley the distance to lay the big punch again.

    if roach believes floyd will fight flat footed against pacquiao, then he better have another gameplan ready because otherwise floyd is going to dance his way to victory. floyd is too smart for pacquaio in my opinion and theres not a damn thing roach can do about it. this is the problem trainers are having, they keep coming up with these gameplans for their fighter, but at the end of the day their boxer is not smart enough.

    what do you guys think?
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think he's wrong as well. It's my belief that he fought like that as a tactic. Against Marquez his footwork was sublime, Marquez has poor footwork, Floyd knew that and outmaneuvred him, it's a tactic. I'm glad Roach thinksthat though, because it means the fight might happen, and we all want it.
     
  3. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Well, we never know what is Roach up to.

    To be honest, I think Floyd realized that Shane doesn't pack as much firepower and speed anymore that's why he chose to stand flat-footed even after getting hit in the 2nd.

    Pac is another story. He is very dangerous when he's in the zone and he keeps it up to the last round. I think if the fight comes off, Floyd would use smarts and backpedal to frustrate Pac.
     
  4. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    absolutely correct the man is too smart in the ring Its all about the adjustments. Floyd can fight agressively or more defensively depending on the situation. His true talent is how he neutralizes his opponent and keep coming up with those wins.
    I personally think hes gonna meet Manny in the middle of the ring and surprise us the same way he did against Shane
     
  5. chris41

    chris41 most skilled fighter(esb) Full Member

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    let him think that...maybe pac will finally agree to the blood testing so we can get this on...

    dont worry roach mayweather lost his footwork...now lets make the fight happen
     
  6. Sro

    Sro New Member Full Member

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    I have to disagree with Roach too - I thought Mayweather controlled the ring brilliantly, his legs were fine and he took that shot and recovered stupidly quick. He got wobbled and recovered well. Mosely looked very nervous and I dont think he got out of that mindset.

    I actually thought Mayweather looked the bigger man against Mosely. I like both guys but Mosely looked lost in there. Floyd surprised me by holding the middle of the ring and forcing Shane back. Pac is dangerous yes, but Floyd has shown that if he wants to he can stand his ground.

    If Shane can do the tests then so can Manny, he has nothing to lose by doing them. Its not standard testing for sure but this fight needs to get made.

    Roach is wrong on the issue of Floyd losing his legs.

    Wow - Ive written an post defending Floyd Mayweather Jr!! lol
     
  7. Invincible

    Invincible P U R E B O X E R Full Member

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    Floyd fought flat footed on purpose, in order to lure Roach into accepting the fight. I don't care who disagrees with me, this is the truth.
     
  8. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    Not flat footed at all. He fought that way to prove a point that he can be exciting, go toe to toe with Mosley and punch with power when need be. People complain when he dances, but when he stands people say hes lost his legs!! LOL
     
  9. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Floyd had great foot movement when he need it, or when he wanted to do it.
     
  10. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    whatever the cae may be...something positive from the fight i did see was that Mosley did land a good number of body shots on Floyd...and they were quality shots too...i dont know if that had more to do with the way Floyd was fighting and Mosley's reach or Floyd slowing down.
     
  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    It would be silly to think Roach actually believes his legs have gone. He's fully aware of the strengths Floyd holds, as well as the very few weaknesses (legs not being one of them!) in his game.

    In the lead up to this fight, expect Roach to make all sorts of comments. Don't be fooled in to thinking he means them. As a fighter, I'm pretty sure that even he acknowledges that Manny faces a mountain against Floyd, and that his fighter is actually the lesser man.
     
  12. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    I think Roach has a very good ability to do boxing analysis. It fails him when he has some emotional involvement.

    I'd trust him to pick the winner of two fighters that he didn't train or have anything to do with.
     
  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I actually didn't see Shane land any meaningful body shots. The only thing he got right were those two huge right hands he managed slip through. Other than that, Shane did nothing to even remotely trouble Floyd, in what I still feel was a awful display by him (not taking anything away from Floyd of course)
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I think Roach used to be a pretty straight shooter but has gotten to really enjoy pre-fight windups and isn't really aiming for accuracy in that and many other statements. Just throwing things out there to get a bite.
     
  15. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    nah they were nothing to bother Floyd as it wasnt like an onslaught of them but if you ever get a chance to rewatch it..there were a number of good body shots that go through.