Pac vs DH and Floyd vs Mosley are overrated victories

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is the truth. Fighters can get old over night and that is what happened in both cases. Yes, DH was still reasonable good in the Floyd fight before he faced Pac and Mosley looked good against Cotto and Margarito.That does not change the fact that both were over the hill in their next fight.Let's face it, they were big names but npt great fighters anymore.

    DH was weight drained when he faced Pac. He could not make 147 no more.Mosley had no stamina, throw about 30 punches a round, ridcoulous.They both were a shadow.


    Let's stop all this BS, Floyd did not beat a 80% Mosley but more like a 40% Mosley. Mosley about 40, probably problems weight, come on. Floyd gets a lot more credit from me for the DH victory, that was a good victory.
     
  2. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley was the number 1 WW in most people's eyes. He was also the guy to knockout Margarito.

    What exactly was oscar when pac fought him at 147? Oscar was coming off getting tagged up at 154 by Stevie Forbes.:lol:
     
  3. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^ Nobody gave Pacquiao a chance against Oscar. It was a joke fight in most people's eyes.

    Mosley didn't look as shot as Oscar, but he looked pretty bad. All you have to do is watch some older footage of him years back and you can see how heavy the decline is.
     
  4. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Shane Mosley was the lineal welterweight champion, ranked #3 P4P in the World, and described by Pac's own promoter Bob Arum as the most difficult possible fight for Mayweather.

    De La Hoya had not even fought at Welterweight in almost ten years, and was coming off a victory, but what most will concede was a shaky performance against Steve Forbes.

    Mosley was clearly a real test - De La Hoya was weightdrained and had not accomplished anything of note since his victory against Mayorga - Even that no spectacular feat.
     
  5. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    No they are not. Before fight night, a lot of people were saying DLH was going to destroy Pacquiao. Mosley was supposed to be the guy to give Mayweather not only his toughest fight but his first loss. My oh my how things change after the fight. Instead of finding ways to nitpick, have you ever considered thinking that maybe, just maybe those wins are a tribute to how great a fighter truly is? but no, it's much easier to say "he's shot, he's done, he's nothing without EPO, etc.."
     
  6. Gander Tasco

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    You have to judge a fight for what happened though and not the expectations beforehand.

    Are you seriously saying Pacquiao beat a live opponent in De La Hoya? Even I'll admit Hoya looked completely shot and weight-drained in there.

    I thought Mosley was going to be very dangerous for Floyd but he showed his age in there. His speed, legs, and reflexes were out the window.

    As good as Pac's and Floyd's performances were, that doesn't change the fact that they their opposition wasn't up to par.
     
  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac and Mayweather can only ride their DLH and Mosley wins for so long.
    Great wins for both, but let's be realistic, this is not those fighters' era. When those two fighters fought each other it was prime for prime, their era.

    Now, when Pac and Floyd fight each other it will be prime for prime and that win will be meaningful in the way both Pac and Floyd fans want meaning in their fighter's legacy. They both need to make this fight happen, THIS YEAR. :deal
     
  8. 1HitterQuitter

    1HitterQuitter RUTHLESS BY LAW Full Member

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    i would say that he beat a 70% mosley. 40? r u ****ing nutz?
     
  9. boxer1025

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    If you call out boxing a midget by UD "getting tagged up"! Then I guess he got tagged up, LMAO
     
  10. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    Sure buddy, sure...As I said, it's so much easier to nitpick victories rather than acknowledge a great fighter at work...If Mosley was so old and shot, how come he threw the majority of his punches during the last three rounds? He was mentally beat once he realized the better man was standing in front of him.
     
  11. Gander Tasco

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    :good
     
  12. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    Who else was Mayweather supposed to fight? No matter who he fights he'll never get credit. DLH called out Pac if I'm not mistaken and got his ass handed to him.
     
  13. crosseyed

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    I really like that I can just determine whether a victory counts or not just based on if the fight goes how I thought it would.

    For instance, I've never been a big fan of Roy Jones and by using this criteria I can now dismiss both his greatest victories; Toney was drained and Hopkins too green! Any fool can see that. Sure we thought they'd be tough fights, but I decided they don't count, so they don't. Fun way of doing things.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really agree with this, good post.
     
  15. Gander Tasco

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    Mosley got beat by the better man that night, I'm not arguing with you there. I'm just saying that clearly wasn't the best Mosley, just like Oscar wasn't at his best against Pacquiao.

    That doesn't mean that they get no credit for the victories. They should get credit for fighting what people considered to be dangerous opponents . That doesn't change that fact that Mosley and Oscar were well past their primes.