Is Mayweather the best pure boxer since Whitaker ?

Simple answer: YES

And with enough couple of wins I will rate him higher, if he isnt higher already.

 

Maybe, Ivan Calderon is up there though. Both Mayweather and Calderon are more skilled than Wlad in this regard imo, that's a strong opinion. Mayweather to me is more of a 'defensive minded' guy than a 'pure boxer', Calderon is to an extent also, vt Mayweather sometimes goes inside and maintains defense, so i rate him as a defensive specialist first and foremost. Calderon at his best would show great footwork, head movement, and control range to the point where he's throwing combos from the outside. Slept on fighter, whether he was in a weak division for a long time or not.

 

No, James Toney is

 

That's bull****.

 

Well there was a time in Floyds career where he actually could do everything besides relying on defence, I just think he is past his prime, thats why he is so defensively minded today, but Floyd at super feather/lightweight is more complete than Calderon.

 

No he is not.

 

He's more complete for sure, that's not what were being asked though, 'pure boxer' is the question. I voted yes anyway, i just wanted to give props to Calderon, he's up there in this regard. There's a difference between a pure boxer and a complete technician so i don't get your point.

 

mayweather don't play the games like whitaker would....

whitaker would clown around alot and also pretend like the punch made him groggy etc. (the de lahoya fight for instance) I think the judges didn't quite get it sometimes.

none the less.. an escape artist with masterful footwork. I appreciated watching his fights.
It was sad to see him faded in the middleweight tournament. In his prime he would have beaten alot of those guys down.

 

In wanted to mention Calderon but as good as he is, I think Mayweather is a tad better.

 

Yeah, what Mayweather does, he does technically perfect.

 

I was referring to a more complete pure boxer than Calderon, but yeah I agree with you, Calderon desurves a mention.

 

Oh ok, it's props to Mayweather that he deserves mention as being more of a varied fighter whereas Calderon is exclusively a pure boxer. Variation is huge, and Floyd does have it.

 

Yeah thats what I meant. Good point about Calderon though, good of you mentioning him.

 

I wouldn't class Mayweather as a pure boxer, actually. I think teeto makes a good point: Mayweather is much more of a defensive fighter than anything else. It sounds pedantic, but without that consideration the thread just becomes, "Is Mayweather the best fighter since Whitaker?"

Whitaker is much more of a pure, general technician.