Greatest light heavyweights never to win the title.

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Much ink has been spilled on the issue of who were the best heavyweights never to win the title.

    What about some of the best light heavyweights since the division was founded?
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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  3. sugarsean

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  4. teeto

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    The definitive answer.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles and Sam Langford are of course obvious answers.

    I was hoping for a few less obvious names as well.
     
  6. sugarsean

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    I know it's a crime that he never got the title
     
  7. GPater11093

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    Definitly Ezzard Charles.

    But Jimmy Bivin's has a claim to being equally hard done by IMO
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On tape, it looked to me as though Eddie Cotton beat Jose Torres, and his tombstone does proclaim him as the uncrowned light heavyweight champion of the world.

    Yaqui Lopez came close more than once. James Scott never had a chance to fight for it. Harry Matthews was another who never got a title shot. Bob Murphy did, but Maxim turned him back.

    I somehow doubt that Charles, Braddock and Burns cared about the title at 175 once they topped the mountain.
     
  9. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles, Jimmy Bivins, Jerry Martin.
     
  10. TBooze

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    Sammy Langford had a claim (1911-13; BBB of C Yearbook 2009, Page 252).
     
  11. burt bienstock

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    Gunboat Smith powerful puncher about 170 lbs...Of course Ezzard Charles=Lloyd Marshall
     
  12. Doc Dynamo

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    Langford, Charles, Tunney, Greb, Bivins. You can make a case for some guys before the LH title existed especially Choynski. Kid McCoy got a shot after his peak.

    I think LH is the only division where I have more non-title holders in my top ten then champions.
     
  13. bum of the week

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    Apart from the already mentioned of which Charles, Tunney and Langford are the most obvious candidates, I feel that Tiger Jack Fox and Young Stribling deserves to be remembered.
     
  14. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Y'know, Titan, with all due respect, I don't buy Jerry Martin. He got handsomely rewarded for upending Scott with three title shots, but Jerry got stopped all three times, and never really came close to winning any of them. I think I'd take Kates (who went out a winner at The Bull's expense), over Martin. (Today, Ritchie's butting in the first bloody Galindez fight would have made him a champion.)

    Ahumada is a name I'll toss into the ring. Getting a draw against Foster in Albuquerque offers a strong suggestion of who really deserved to win. (Even Bob has pretty much conceded this.) Galindez had Ahumada's number as Moore had Harold Johnson's, but Jorge did manage to steal that one hometown decision from Victor.
     
  15. MRBILL

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    Agreed..:good

    It would also include Mike Moorer, but he was a meaningless (At The Time) WBO champ at 175........ That title spoils it for Moorer.......

    MR.BILL:hi: